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Scientists claim they can change your belief on immigrants and God – with MAGNETS

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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:34 PM
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Using a technique called transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), researchers safely shut down certain groups of neurones in the brains of volunteers.

TMS, which is used to treat depression, involves placing a large electromagnetic coil against the scalp which creates electric currents that stimulate nerve cells in the region of the brain involved in mood control.

Researchers found the technique radically altered religious perceptions and prejudice.

Belief in God was reduced almost by a third, while participants became 28.5 per cent less bothered by immigration numbers.

Dr Keise Izuma, from the University of York, said: "People often turn to ideology when they are confronted by problems."



Scientists claim they can change your belief on immigrants and God – with MAGNETS

By turning off certain neurons in the brain, they were able to affect believe in God. Does this prove that if we had brain damage in this region of the brain, that could make us reject God because of how our brain worked? Would God then reject these people for lack of faith? Did they just open Pandora's box? How would religious belief ever survive if everyone was subjected to magnetic waves from a device like this? Would God have to intervene? Is it the work of Satan?


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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:38 PM
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You can be sure the Government will be figuring out how to use this to manipulate us. As far as the existential questions who knows?



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:40 PM
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a reply to: v1rtu0s0

So basically they attach something to my skull and I think differently... sounds horrible



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:44 PM
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Good, they need to zap Donald Trump with it.

Second line



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:46 PM
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a reply to: v1rtu0s0

A specific region was turned DOWN and the rate of belief in God was DECREASED. This basically proves very little.

When we look at things that are labeled "disorders" we often find hyper or hypo activation in comparison to a supposed "norm" or a statistical majority.

Another point is that there is no one size fits all for how people fire. Attempting to apply the same alterations to 100 patients will yield widely varying results, no matter which area you apply the stimulation to.

There is no way of saying what could be true or false, right or wrong from an observed over or under activation in circuitry running through a particular brain region. This in no way proves or disproves God, or should change the way we view much of anything best I can tell.
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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:49 PM
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a reply to: v1rtu0s0

i am thinking there is a difference in the before and after questionaires for other reasons. Doesn't sound very scientific to me.

I have never had a problem with immigrants, legal or illegal, though how they should be dealt with...my ideas have changed over time.

In regard to GOD as a real being, don't most people's ideas change daily? Or even by the year ? My being to pray to became Aradia, sister to Satan, in about 1995. However, it is really the same omnipotent being people pray to. I doubt any magnets would change that for me.
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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:50 PM
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It would probably make me go psycho like the small percentage of the population in the movie Serenity that became Reavers. Good movie but it could have been great if it starred Tom Cruz.
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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:51 PM
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I heard from a Ranger about a "HALO" they used to train him with combat NLP stuff..
It's been out there for some time ...so long I bet they're doing it with cellphones too.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:55 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
I heard from a Ranger about a "HALO" they used to train him with combat NLP stuff..
It's been out there for some time ...so long I bet they're doing it with cellphones too.


I have heard of that. Don;t tell anyone I gave you a star. woops, lol.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:57 PM
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A few beers can have the same effect, lol. People in different moods will vary in the significance they ascribe to certain issues. It is pretty obvious common sense. If someone emotionally close to us dies we will be drawn to our faith more (if we have any) because we need it at that time. When making love with a new partner who we have the hots for big time will not be making us think about baby Jesus so much right there and then.

I think they are over hyping what effects they can produce. Any mood changing device, drugs or other stimulus, can be said to have influence upon what we are focussing on mentally.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:00 AM
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m just gonna leave this here

Hendricus G. Loos



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:06 AM
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originally posted by: Myomistress
Good, they need to zap Donald Trump with it.

Second line


Mystery solved as to why Trump sports that terrible, unnatural comb over? Could it be that it shields him from magnetic fields?



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:10 AM
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Belief in God was reduced almost by a third, while participants became 28.5 per cent less bothered by immigration numbers.


Finally!

A cure for Conservatism

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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:13 AM
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Considering I haven't looked at any links in the OP or researched anything after coming here, I'm going to suggest the affect was produced by reducing sensitivity to threat. Reduced sensitivity to threat means reduced mortality salience and less desire for purpose or afterlife. I would assume the only reason people care about immigration is because they're worried it'll affect their chances to live well or overcome danger. They will no longer care as much about living well or surviving danger.

The same affect should also give people a feeeling of oneness and peace. A sense that all is well and there's nothing to fear.

Lol I'm stabbing in the dark.

A few things make me think all this though. There's a model tied to threat sensitivity that says when a person is highly sensitive to threats they're more likely to have psychiatric disorders. And I've seen studies about mortality salience and how it affects belief in god or desire for purpose. I've also things about oxytocin and group bonding.

Example:
www.wired.com - ‘Cuddle Chemical’ Also Fuels Favoritism, Bigotry...

When asked to resolve a moral dilemma, such as choosing to save five lives from a runaway train by sacrificing one life, oxytocin-sniffing Dutch men more often saved fellow countrymen over Arabs and Germans than those who didn’t get a hormonal whiff.

“Earlier research of oxytocin paints a very rosy view of it. We thought it was odd a neurological system that survived evolution would make people indiscriminately loving toward others,” said social psychologist Carsten De Dreu of the University of Amsterdam, co-author of a Jan. 10 study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. “Under oxytocin we saw an increase of in-group favoritism, which has the downside of discrimination against people who are not part of your group.”

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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:18 AM
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no that don't work like that, how did it work out for the crusades the spanish inquisition or the salem witch hunts? asks the meso-americans how that worked for them when the spanish came and in a polite word settled there and so many more i didn't add to the list? the OP is complete bs history already shows what happens to conflicting religions. its a convert or die off thing



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:18 AM
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So they actually used the word "immigrants" and thus worded a THREAT to people.

I'd withdraw any funding they get ASAP, and let them know that you don't require anything from them except for their resignation, and possible criminal prosecution if even one person's free will is taken.

People need to use phone, letters, speak up, meet in person, get groups going, their papers and get in their faces non stop.

Its the action steps that count.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:19 AM
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Brilliant. A device that can make us all think the same. lunatic's wet dream.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:26 AM
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Reminds me of a song called Happiness by the Kilowatt, and that song is based on a story by Kurt Vonnegut called The Euphio Question, here is the outline:

Based on Vonnegut’s 1951 short euphiomachinestory from Welcome to the Monkey House, a young physicist discovers radio waves that can make people happy at the flick of a switch. An unscrupulous businessman takes the device in a direction the young physicist never suspected, and the ramifications of his discovery resonate through society, changing it completely – leaving the public wondering what good there is in happiness, when it’s just a button-push away?

the paragraph above is the work of this site/page..it's the best summary
www.littlemountainlionproductions.com...

more on it

www.bookrags.com...=0
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posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:28 AM
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Smart phones would be the perfect place to put them. Imagine the fun hackers would have if not invasive government.



rosebud



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 12:29 AM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
Brilliant. A device that can make us all think the same. lunatic's wet dream.


No it's a totalitarians wet dream. It's a lunatic's wet dream when they try it on a large scale and it goes horribly wrong with a small amount of people outside the test range.




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