Photos emerge of Palestinian stabber in Israeli hospital, refuting Abbas claims of 'execution'

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Cisjordan ?

What are the odds? A statistical look at the stabbing attacks

There have been eight Israelis killed in the recent wave of violence, which began on Rosh Hashana, just about one month ago. In 2015 so far, there have been 276 car fatalities, or an average of is 27.6 per month according to Israel’s traffic-safety advocacy group, Or Yarok. The monthly average will probably reach 28 by the time October is over. An Israeli is between three and four times more likely to be killed in a car accident than by a terrorist.

Out of a population of 8.3 million Israelis, that’s one for over a million people. However, many of these were in Jerusalem. If they had all died in Jerusalem, which is close to 900,000 people, that’s just over .00089 percent – or one out of every 112,500 people.

In addition, in the last two weeks, 92 Israelis were wounded, according to a tally published by Ynet a few days ago. That was before a false alarm about a terrorist on a crowded train led someone to pull the emergency break, causing some light injuries and great fear. The Israeli press reported that the injuries included panic attacks. Let’s approximate roughly 120 wounded, including those treated for panic episodes. That’s about .00144 percent of the total population of Israel, or one in every 69,167 people.

There have been about 27 such attacks against Israelis in the current wave of violence depending on exactly which incidents one counts: this includes 23 listed on Israel’s Foreign Ministry website, added to the stone-throwing death of Alexander Levlovich on the eve of Rosh Hashanah and three more from Friday. Since nearly all of them are “lone” attackers, we can count about 29 people – two of the attacks were perpetrated by two people – who attacked Israeli civilians and soldiers. The Henkin murders involved a cell. So let’s round the total up to 40.

Gaza and the West Bank contain about 4.5 million people. That’s one in 112,500 people who are involved in deadly attacks. Palestinians I’ve spoken to report that Hamas has been trying to foment violent action among West Bank Palestinians over the last year, without great success. After a year of trying, even a liberal estimate turns up only a few dozen people who have launched deadly Jewish Israelis.

Among Palestinian citizens of Israel, or Israeli-Arabs, two have been involved in this wave of violence, out of 1.7 million – not including any East Jerusalem attackers who may turn out to have Israeli citizenship. Most East Jerusalemites are permanent residents and not Israeli citizens. As a percentage, Arab citizens participating in terror involve five zeroes after the decimal point — and the sixth digit is “1″.

I write this in no way to minimize each and every person harmed, killed, or even deeply shaken by proximity. The terrible feeling of being too close has stayed with me for 13 years, since the day a bomb went off a block away from me in Jerusalem. I am writing this as my small attempt to lower the level of panic, which is causing further damage in itself.

The vast majority of Palestinians, well over 99 percent, are not involved in the current deadly attacks.

Thirty-five Palestinians have been killed during this period, according to a report on Israel’s Army Radio at midday on Friday. Combining the different tallies available in news updates, about half were engaged in attacks – roughly 14 who committed or threatened a stabbing attack, and two used guns. The others, roughly 19, were killed during protests or while “disturbing the peace,” such as throwing rocks, maybe being near people who threw rocks or getting “too close” to the fence in Gaza. Palestinians, therefore, might logically conclude that Israel sees political protest and rock throwing as capital offenses, with no legal process.

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a reply to: dashen

Is he dead ? Does that bring the amount to 9 instead of 8 ?

EDIT : You must be delighted to see Jewish people bleed, at least this provides decent propaganda material, don't worry blood is not going to stop anytime soon ... not as long as Israelis don't reconsider their 'right' to behave like they do.
A mirror is what you need when you have no more scapegoat.

Want to kill someone in Israel ? Just leave a knife next to the victim ...



It's just a matter of time until a Jew gets shot for looking too 'Arab'.

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yknow, i still dont recall you denouncing the Palestinian use of child suicide soldiers.

Is that a legitimate political tool

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Too bad that was a flashlight. Once again RT is propaganda and has been caught outright lying. It s not banned here for th e reason we all know what it is. Russias version of stormfront lol.

a reply to: dashen

They are not 'suicide soldiers', they are victims so despaired that they would rather die rather than enduring their situation any longer.
At some point, you must like violence given that you'd rather display it rather than consider its root cause.
Palestinian violence has nothing to do with a 'binational state' — it is a direct result of perpetual statelessness.
You sound just like a doctor that would recommend to break the thermometer to relieve fever.

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Someone who picks up a knife and stabs children is not a victim sir.
I believe you have to go back to your dictionary and look up the word victim.
It's not the guy running around chasing to stab little kids

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No, you are the one who finds normal that the Israeli Navy shells them when they are playing on the beach ... using a warship is much more sophisticated than a knife for sure.
What will be Israel new move ? Plastic knifes just like in the planes ?
Everything but consider the root cause.
Israel is behaving towards the Palestinians like the Nazis behave towards the Jews, welcome on the other side of the mirror. Nazis too used to call resistance fighters terrorists. How many people have ever been put on trial for killing a Nazi ?

Funny thing is, even when a Palestinian state will be finally established, it will be filled with the most twisted and bloodthirsty people on earth.
People who were preached for violence all their lives.

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a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke

What is this?
People crying at a funeral?
Is there a point?

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Pointing out what is the latest remaining Zionist argument : 'Look how they hate us, the poor Jews'.
Unless you start considering that Israel is dealing with the consequences of it's own actions and there is no one to blame.

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
Israel is behaving towards the Palestinians like the Nazis behave towards the Jews, welcome on the other side of the mirror. Nazis too used to call resistance fighters terrorists. How many people have ever been put on trial for killing a Nazi ?

The fear level/paranoia has grow so high in Israel that Jews aren't safe from Jews any more :

Jew believed to be attacker shot, killed in Jerusalem

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Pointing out what is the latest remaining Zionist argument : 'Look how they hate us, the poor Jews'.

So you are using the above photo of kids mourning at their friend's funeral to establish this point?
How cynical and twisted can one be? You're must be fun at parties...

Unless you start considering that Israel is dealing with the consequences of it's own actions and there is no one to blame.

Can't agree with you more.
But this goes both ways. You better start considering the same.

Israel is behaving towards the Palestinians like the Nazis behave towards the Jews, welcome on the other side of the mirror. Nazis too used to call resistance fighters terrorists. How many people have ever been put on trial for killing a Nazi ?

Resistance fighters killing Nazi soldiers is one thing.
Slaughtering children and entire families in cold blood, while aiming your "resistance efforts" mostly towards civilian population is a little bit different.

The fear level/paranoia has grow so high in Israel that Jews aren't safe from Jews any more

This is what happens when kids are taught that if they kill Jews they will get a prize in heaven.
The fear of religious fanaticism is creating paranoia all over the world. Israel is no different.

originally posted by: MaxMech


Unless you start considering that Israel is dealing with the consequences of it's own actions and there is no one to blame.

Can't agree with you more.
But this goes both ways. You better start considering the same.

Who invade who ... The Palestinians were there first, the Zionists arrived, Nakba, six days war, settlement policy, ...

originally posted by: MaxMech
Resistance fighters killing Nazi soldiers is one thing.
Slaughtering children and entire families in cold blood, while aiming your "resistance efforts" mostly towards civilian population is a little bit different.

Can you explain how different it is ... from the resistant point of view ?
Zionism seeks ethic proselytism like the Nazism.
Settlement policy is chasing the same ideal as ze german lebensraum.
Gaza is a ghetto.
...


How many people have ever been put on trial for killing a Nazi ?

originally posted by: MaxMech
This is what happens when kids are taught that if they kill Jews they will get a prize in heaven.
The fear of religious fanaticism is creating paranoia all over the world. Israel is no different.

Are you trying to play the propagandist card that the Palestinians are following religious integrists motives ?
As if their current condition wasn't enough to fuel their rebellion.
Aren't religious motives already justifying Zionism from the Jewish perspective ?

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originally posted by: MaxMech


Unless you start considering that Israel is dealing with the consequences of it's own actions and there is no one to blame.

Can't agree with you more.
But this goes both ways. You better start considering the same.


Who invade who ... The Palestinians were there first, the Zionists arrived, Nakba, six days war, settlement policy, ...

Palestinians should have taken a state when it was offered to them in 1948. Instead they wanted all of it.
As you said, Palestinians should start considering that they are dealing with the consequences of their own actions and there is no one to blame.

originally posted by: MaxMech
Resistance fighters killing Nazi soldiers is one thing.
Slaughtering children and entire families in cold blood, while aiming your "resistance efforts" mostly towards civilian population is a little bit different.


Can you explain how different it is ... from the resistant point of view ?

If you think that there is no difference between fighting a soldier that is occupying your land, and, on the other hand, butchering a whole family with your own hands, then I think there is nothing I can say that will make you think differently as our mindset is different as two separate languages.

Zionism seeks ethic proselytism like the Nazism.

Really? Sure it's not the opposite?
Israelis: Jews-75.4% Muslim-16.9% Christian-2.1% Druze-1.7% 4.0% not classified by religion, and a small Baha'i community.
Palestinians: 98%-Sunni Muslims.

Settlement policy is chasing the same ideal as ze german lebensraum.

The lebensraum was basically living space for Germans. In Israel nobody except crazy settlers is living in the west bank. And like all the other crazy people in the world, they are lead by religion. There is plenty free space in Israel. The occupied territories are useless for normal people to live in.

Gaza is a ghetto.

By choice.

Are you trying to play the propagandist card that the Palestinians are following religious integrists motives ?

Propaganda - no.
Palestinians are following religious integrists motives - yes.
Go to the west bank and have a chat with a couple of random Palestinians.

As if their current condition wasn't enough to fuel their rebellion.

They justify the resistance to occupation by their current condition, which is understandable.
They justify random stabbing of Israeli civilians by this.

Aren't religious motives already justifying Zionism from the Jewish perspective ?

Correct. So?
Are you surprised that something bad is coming from religion?