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“Abducting Women” and “Destroying Churches” is “Real Islam”—Iraqi Grand Ayatollah

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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:10 AM
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This very informative article was published just today, and is presently fresh off of the press..
OCT 15, 2015

www.raymondibrahim.com...


During a recent televised interview with Grand Ayatollah Ahmad al-Baghdadi, the leading Shia cleric of Iraq made clear why Islam and the rest of the world can never peacefully coexist.


The Grand Ayatollah
First he spent some time discussing “defensive jihad,” saying that all capable Muslims are obligated to fight for the “liberation” of “occupied” territory, for instance, Israel (see here for a list of European countries also deemed “occupied” in the eyes of Islam).

He then explained “offensive jihad,” Islam’s primary bloodline, which forged what we now call the “Muslim world” over the centuries.

According to the ayatollah, when they can—when circumstance permits it, when they are strong enough—Muslims are obligated to go on the offensive and conquer non-Muslims (a fact to be kept in mind as millions of Muslim “refugees” flood the West).

The Muslim cleric repeatedly yelled at the secularized host who kept interrupting him and protesting that Islam cannot teach such intolerance. At one point, he burst out: “I am the scholar of Islam [al-faqih]. You are just a journalist. Listen to me!”


Link again:www.raymondibrahim.com...


Written by Raymond Ibrahim

www.raymondibrahim.com...

Comments anyone?
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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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Yes,

There is going to be a big war.

Soon


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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

Not surprising, anyone with open eyes knows exactly what is going on.

When over 50% of Islamic populations are polled anywhere in the world (including Europe and the US) they favor Islamic Law.


Anyone who spouts or actually believes in "mass assimilation" to our own cultures is foolish.
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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

There you have it from the horse's mouth.

How much longer until people see it for what it is?


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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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"They just need hugs. We need to sit down and talk with them and we could work it all out."

With comments like these I have to wonder why some people still don't understand that some people? Some people only understand a punch to the mouth, not kind words and handshakes.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: tony9802

There you have it from the horse's mouth.



He's one guy.

He doesn't represent all Muslims anymore then Bryan Fischer represents all Christians.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Shamrock6

Since when does the Shia sect represent "true" Islam...



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:27 AM
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We are told to believe these are the beliefs held by only the radical, extreme few. This does not lend to that supposition and will not be broadly distributed to the population.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

Islam in its current form is similar to Catholicism during the Inquisition. The inquisition doesn't represent the bible or Christ. This form of Islam doesn't represent the Quran or Mohammed.

Islam is being lead by deranged psychopaths who lust for world domination. The Quran says Allah never takes the side of an oppressor and women equal to men.

Just like Christian blood lust ideology died, so will the blood lust of psychopaths who misrepresent the Quran and Mohammed, who make a mockery out of their religion and themselves.



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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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originally posted by: Kemal
a reply to: Shamrock6

Since when does the Shia sect represent "true" Islam...


So, what is the difference between shia and sunni besides the disputed familial lineage tracing back to mohammad?


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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

History.... Our first War after Independence. I bet 90% of the US has no idea.

www.thefederalistpapers.org...



Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and Benjamin Franklin were sent as representatives to mediate the problem. It was there that they discovered that the Islamic law the pirates followed made it their duty to attack non-Muslims.

“The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise,” Jefferson wrote to Secretary of State John Jay, explaining peace was not possible.

Ben Franklin wrote of his experience: “Nor can the Plundering of Infidels be in that sacred Book (the Qur’an) forbidden, since it is well known from it, that God has given the World, and all that it contains, to his faithful Mussulmen, who are to enjoy it of Right as fast as they conquer it.”

John Adams, in his report to Jay, wrote of the Muslim prophet Muhammad, and called him a “military fanatic” who “denies that laws were made for him; he arrogates everything to himself by force of arms.”

By the time Jefferson became president the Barbary coast was extorting 25% of US GDP and attacks were still occurring. Jefferson wasted no time in signing a war powers request which launched the US’s entire naval fleet to wage war on the Barbary pirates. The US Marines were born. Jefferson saw the fleet off, ordering the US sailors to chase the pirates all the way to Tripoli, giving rise to the famed verse from the US Marines’ anthem.




“As the essential principle of his [Muhammad’s] faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.” President John Quincy Adams



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Kemal

What does that have to do with what I said? I don't see "true Islam" anywhere in my comment, but rather I see commentary that some people don't want to talk and talking to them is a waste of time.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

He’s not a scholar of Islam he’s a jackass of Islam.

It’s these types who need to die out.

It’s these old time scum bag Imams and Sheiks of pre-modern and primitive religion that need to be exterminated through time hopefully.

But you have to understand its guys like him who influence the young ignorant Muslims into this barbaric pre-modern nonsense.

That's how they create these armies of zombies that the US actually created and supports for geo political skullduggery


In the end Iran and Saudi Arabia will be enemies of Islam unless a new generation of modern Muslims is raised up

Into the good side of Islam, such as Sufism, moderate Sunni and Shia Islam such as the people of the Agha Khan, there are many branches.

But if this poisonous Wahhabi/Salafi version spreads then God help us



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: infolurker

Is a reason why, true Muslim Islamic law followers like in Arabs countries are expected to follow their Islamic laws faithfully.

This man was nothing but a Muslim cleric under Saddam rule in Iraq look what US invasion made of him, he raised to be now the "Grand Ayatollah in Iraq" the irony.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: newWorldSamurai
We are told to believe these are the beliefs held by only the radical, extreme few. This does not lend to that supposition and will not be broadly distributed to the population.


Unfortunately it appears that many Middle Eastern Muslims support the idea of a military jihad which propagates offensive actions in the name of Allah.

These people have been brainwashed by psychopaths to believe they have to fight for Allah.

The Quran does not permit aggression, only self defense. Allah does not need men to fight his battles. Allah is capable of destroying mankind without the assistant of human soldiers.

It may take a generation or two for them to heal and return to the peaceful religion found in the Quran, but it will happen.


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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:34 AM
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a reply to: tony9802

I was not going to touch this, but what the hell.

So many religions have had been hijacked over the years. There are billions of Muslims and Catholics but we look at the sparse few ne'er do wells and dip our brushes in into the paint. I don't conform to either belief system and there is no denying that there were bad actions committed by both sides, but they were committed by a few black sheep and blaming the flock only fuels the flames.




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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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a reply to: Isurrender73

Ideally, that would be the desired outcome. Unfortunately, specifically in the ME, that does not appear the direction it is headed. The Muslim of the rest of the world will need to be the ones to change that. History has proven that outsiders (US, Russia, EU) cannot accomplish this.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:37 AM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: tony9802

There you have it from the horse's mouth.



He's one guy.

He doesn't represent all Muslims anymore then Bryan Fischer represents all Christians.


So, is he a liar who is entirely misrepresenting mohammadanism? At who's behest?

What part of his statement is inconsistent with your understanding?

Is he partially correct?


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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:39 AM
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I have posted this before but I still say it's true.

There are two types of muslims.
Extremist and moderate.

Extremist muslims want to kill all non muslims.

Moderate muslims want extremist muslims to kill all non muslims.


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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Correct.



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