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Wal-Mart Cannot Afford the $10 Wage

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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: roadgravel
The US can fund a huge military, terrorize the world and prop up countries and corporations but doesn't really care much about it's citizens.


I totally agree with this statement. I would much rather GIVE money away than bomb people for no good reason.
edit on 2015/10/15 by Metallicus because: can't spell




posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

I agree with you there!

If we restrained ourselves a bit more, I think we'd probably create less terrorists around the world.

In Star Wars, a lot of the people working for the Empire probably don't think they're evil themselves, or that the Empire is evil either...but to the Rebel Alliance, the Empire is the most evil thing in the galaxy. Every time the Empire blows up a planet or something, they just help the Rebel Alliance grow.

The USA isn't like the Empire really...but maybe you can sort of catch the general idea.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 05:44 PM
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I pulled this off of google.



Four members of the Walton family, heirs to Sam Walton's Wal-Mart fortune, are collectively worth more than $100 billion— more wealth than the entire bottom 40% of Americans.Sep 12, 2013


If the Walton family can afford to pay themselves this well, they can afford to pay their workers better.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: openminded2011
I pulled this off of google.



Four members of the Walton family, heirs to Sam Walton's Wal-Mart fortune, are collectively worth more than $100 billion— more wealth than the entire bottom 40% of Americans.Sep 12, 2013


If the Walton family can afford to pay themselves this well, they can afford to pay their workers better.


isn't it great that the republicans keep talking about cutting taxes?........maybe they want the Waltons to get to that magic number of 50% instead of that measly 40%



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Metallicus

What about those who aren't very creative or can't afford college to get that education? And the people who aren't very good at talking with others and being social? What are they supposed to do?

You're coming at the situation as if everyone is capable of doing everything you are able to do. That's not how it works, some people are at a disadvantage in one way or another and aren't able to do what you did, whether it be financially, creatively, or socially. This isn't a utopia.


The most callous and dismissive people in our society are those who have had the least exposure to despair. They don't understand that not everyone grows up in an affluent 2.5 children household where daddy just throws you the money for college and you go off and get a degree and take your rightful place among the other frat boys. They have no experience with harsh reality of financial limitations,ie lacking money for college or upward mobility, so they don't believe it exists because it never has for them. You have to see them for what they are, narrow minded and limited.
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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 07:04 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus

People are worth exactly what they earn.

That is the beauty of Capitalism.


Every post of yours in this thread is elitist, entitlement BS. For everyone one of you there are 10 that failed and 90 that don't have the mental aptitude to do what you did.

But this is simply the worst case of ignorance you have displayed.

Capitalism has bred slavery all over the world. When you have more employees then jobs Capitalist can pay whatever they want and that pay has nothing to do with what an individual is worth.

Capitalist love underemployment and a working class that pays for those who are unemployed. Because unemployment is the only way to keep wages down.

Capitalism historically pays the least possible amount to it's employees. The only reason pay went up in the US happened during a time when there were more jobs then employees.

When jobs outpace employment needs the power over wages shifts from the employer to the emploee. Because now the minimum wage employees truly can sell their labor to the highest bidder.

This is also the time when labor unions are likely to form. Because the employee realizes that united they hold real power. With 20 million unemployed there are people waiting in line and basically begging for any wage, much less a living wage.

Why we need a socialist minimum wage. The idea of a living wage suggests that if a company can't afford to pay it's employees a living wage then the corporation doesn't generate enough revenue to benefit society. If a company can't function by paying a living minimum wage the company is a failure that can only operate under slave labor conditions.

We don't need corporations run so poorly they can't afford to pay someone $10 per hour and more.

You have lost touch with reality. The poor are not the reason for poverty. The financial system is rigged for the bankers and corporations. If a living wage is not feasible for today's corporations, then let them go out of business. I guarantee someone will figure out how to deliver the same goods to the customers and pay their employees a living wage.

I am tired of elitism, that says I did it so screw everyone else. You assume that others are too lazy, which is absolutely BS. There are many people in retail and fast food that work hard each day without any real hope of advancement, and without the ability to find a higher paying job.

The poor are not the reason for poverty. The reason for poverty always was and always will be greed and the elitists entitlement attitude of you and those at the top of the Capitalist system.

Capitalism is good when it works for you.

When the number of serfs that disagree with you rise up because they can't get paid a living wage you will have no one but yourself to blame for Socialism. If Elitists would realize that everyone deserves a living wage Capitalism would flourish and the serfs would never rise up and force Socialism down your throat.

But your mentality practically guarantees more Socialism.

The problem is the financial system and greed, not the minimum wage worker. Wake up before all you have is taken by Socialism because you expected Capitalism to pay people what they were worth.


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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 07:23 PM
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Costco is the second largest retail chain in the country, their employees start off making $11.50 an hour. If the second largest retail chain in the country can afford $11.50 an hour then the largest can afford $10 an hour. The only thing stopping Wal-Mart from paying that wage is greed.

Those who side with Wal-Mart on this are seriously lacking in awareness in my opinion. They're defending the greedy people at the top while disregarding those who struggle through life at the bottom.

$10 an hour is very doable, if they say it's not then they're lying out of greed.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Bottom feeders as in that really old lady in the wheel chair who greets me when I go into Walmart during my lunch break to buy a fruit cup?

Not too sure what kids mowing lawns has to do with Walmart screwing their employees over. My company attempts to offer college grads with degrees in molecular biology $13.50. I told our new president that this is inappropriate and needs to change. He changed it instantly and somehow, some way the company moves forward. He's a good man. Walmart is a disgrace and it sounds like you support keeping hard working people in poverty then claim that they are lazy. Exactly like our old president...who was fired. You wouldn't last.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 07:52 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Yep. My friend works at Costco and makes over $20/hr as a cashier. On Sundays he makes near $35/hr to push carts. And yet Costco still posts profits and opens new stores. What a shock right? No it shouldn't be shocking because anyone with a brain larger than a peanut can see how greedy Walmart is.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 07:59 PM
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a reply to: openminded2011

Boom. Very well said. Then they throw this "I mowed lawns when I was kid and no one does that these days!". Dude most people didn't grow up in a perfect suburb or even had access to a lawn mower. Good God... How blind and sadistic are these people? This guy is THE definition of the real entitlement generation.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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The billionaire banksters and ceo s have outsourced most of our good paying jobs overseas which has left us with a service economy. And to make it worse, they have allowed an invasion from our southern border of 3rd world peoples who dont mind working for low wages because thats what they are used to. I promise that this isnt the future our fathers and grandfathers had in mind for us. If a person is willing to work they should be paid a living wage even if it means that the ceo wont get to buy that 3rd airplane he wanted with the leather seats or his 5th or sixth home.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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The billionaire banksters and ceo s have outsourced most of our good paying jobs overseas which has left us with a service economy. And to make it worse, they have allowed an invasion from our southern border of 3rd world peoples who dont mind working for low wages because thats what they are used to. I promise that this isnt the future our fathers and grandfathers had in mind for us. If a person is willing to work they should be paid a living wage even if it means that the ceo wont get to buy that 3rd airplane he wanted with the leather seats or his 5th or sixth home.



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 09:32 PM
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a reply to: Blazemore2000

People want a living wage? Get a job that pays a living wage, and stop having kid after kid and then putting out a hand...



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: Brainiac

Because everyone who struggles has 5 kids and can snap their fingers and get a job that pays a living wage, right? Good strategy, I'm sure it works for everyone.
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posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 09:34 PM
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a reply to: BrokedownChevy

How long has the guy that makes $20 an hour at Costco been there? $35 an hour to push carts. He's telling you a story...
Either that or he's been there for 20 years...



posted on Oct, 15 2015 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: Bluntone22
The whole thing with walmart has nothing to do with the pay increase of its employees. They have a drop in profit projected for next year. A 6 to 12 percent drop. That news spooked investors into selling their stock and that drove down stock values.

www.bloomberg.com...

Now walmart will have to respond to this situation by raising prices in its stores, therfore the pay increase will be nullified.

Minimum wage will always be minimum wage.

Ssshhh, enough common sense and ignorance denial.. We don't do that kind of thing on ATS anymore..
Okay, back to the hyperbole..



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 02:52 AM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1




$10 an hour is very doable, if they say it's not then they're lying out of greed.


When you add on the fact that Walmart employees deal with condescending, spoiled people like the OP on a daily basis, and can keep doing it with a smile on their face, I think they're worth far more than $10 an hour



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 04:13 AM
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The struggle. Lol



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 06:35 AM
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Just some facts from the hiring trenches:

1. Many, many people under 25 in my area don't apply for, nor want a real job unless the work is simple and the pay is stupid high. Example: Desired starting pay for a teen with no experience...$20 per hour in Pennsylvania.

2. Many people exclude themselves from some jobs because of the "I'll do what I want" mentality. Example: Guy with a huge neck tattoo applying to a company where luxury items are sold. Customer's don't want that type of person selling to them.

3. I would estimate that 25 percent of new hires are lazy and after being told to correct their "lounging around"...won't and either quit or are fired.

4. About 10% of applications have a criminal record. I actually knew an employer whose first question was "When was the last time you were arrested". I was shocked that the answer was rarely..."I haven't been arrested". By the way...for a security job.

Now keep in mind this is in the Pocono Mountains of Pennsylvania. Median income is about $50K. From my experience, there is very little "work ethic", too many want to do next to nothing for their pay, too many expect some crazy pay and benefits with no experience and on their first job, too many believe the world owes them something and finally...about 1% actually have the gumption to start their own business or work as a contractor.

There are lots of job problems and bringing in "new" people to our country doesn't help. Yes, there are bad corporations...but there is also a workforce that doesn't want to work. I call it a liberal mentality. Everyone owes me...and I'm lazy. It is stupid.



posted on Oct, 16 2015 @ 09:31 AM
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People like the OP have a vested interest in crushing the lower paid workers in order to make more money for themselves.

It's greed, pure and simple. And it's beyond disgusting.



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