More Than 400 U.S. Cities May Be 'Past The Point Of No Return' With Sea Level Threats

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: deadeyedick

They are saying that sea levels will rise because of the warmer climate melting all the polar ice. More water in the ocean means higher water levels.

Rising ocean levels could be the least of the problems if ocean currents are affected. Currents drive the planets weather.

earth.usc.edu...

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
I think every citizen needs to sign a contract saying whether they do or do not believe that climate change is an issue that the human population and their governments need to address and spend tax money or surcharges on.

Then, when their home or city is wiped out and they come whining for help, those who checked the Do Not Believe and Do Not Use My Money box get no assistance.

How's that?

Lol i wish!!!!

Im hundreds of feet above sea level, it will effect me in a couple thousand years......thanks for the laugh

a reply to: Krazysh0t

More doom porn? really?????

click the link in the news article of the Huffpost. The link will take you to the actual study in the journal. Its an opinion piece based on.........wait for it......wait for it......COMPUTER PROJECTIONS (Is anyone surprised.

This is one part of the actual study that was published

Scientists have already established that if we do nothing to reduce our burning of fossil fuel up to the year 2100, the planet will face sea level rise of 14-32 feet (4.3–9.9 meters), said lead author Ben Strauss, vice president for sea level and climate impacts at Climate Central.
The big uncertainty is the issue of when.
"Some of this could happen as early as next century," Strauss told AFP.
"But it might also take many centuries," he added.

Same old crap - garbage in garbage out. They haven't been able to come up with a computer projection that accurately predicts global temperature for a period of 20 years BUT NOW...now they can predict sea levels 100 years from now (or is it 2 or 3 centuries from now).

I wouldn't undersell my beachfront property just yet!

Tired of Control Freaks

No worries, trading Carbon credits (you know things that arent actually tangeable) for lots and lots of money will fix everything.......

a reply to: johnwick

The people of Rapa Nui aka Easter Island adapted well after they destroyed their island.

We have to learn from our mistakes.

I also think a change in our financial system is necessary. We cannot continue to destroy this planet's ecosystem for profit and expect they're not to be grave consequences.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

It's also obvious that a global problem can't be addressed if not done globally. Basically if a neighborhood wants to clean up the neighborhood and only a section of the owners take care of what they need to do , the neighborhood will still look like crap and overall there was no solution. Basically we want to patch one of 300 holes in a dam and say we solved the issue.

I agree with the first sentence and I stand by my answer. I'm not talking about a piecemeal effort — some hodgepodge of one-off wind and solar farms and the occasional dam — but rather something like fusion.

With the right technology, there's no need to compel adoption through artificial means, the rest of the world will be scrambling for it because it's superior. We don't even have to speculate about it, we have a modern example:

Look at the roll out of generation from fission. The Atomic Age kicked off in 1933 when Leo Szilard first hypothesized nuclear chain reactions and a mere dozen years later we dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In the US, the first nuclear plant opened in 1958 and ground was broken on the last reactor in 1974. In under 20 years, we rolled out an entirely new technology that currently accounts for 20% of our country's electrical generation capacity. There are 29 other countries that have nuclear plants and those plants generate about 11% of the world's electricity. This is for a technology that has all sorts of dangers and hazardous byproducts and once again relies on relatively exhaustible resources (fissionable material) and at a time when the pace of technological advance wasn't nearly what it is now.

Why is it preferable to believe that we should collectively throw our hands in the air and pretend that there's nothing to be done because... China?

Even if your argument was supposed to be completely valid, why is it a reason not to seek better alternatives? What about all of the other reasons to move on from fossil fuels that aren't related to global warming?

It's a win-win all the way around. No more worrying about oil fields in some middle eastern desert or our economy moving at the whim of organizations like OPEC. No more sulfur emissions from coal fired plants resulting in acid rain that eats the clear coats off our damn cars. It makes sense all the way around, so if it helps people getting past their political programming, ignore global warming and embrace progressing beyond fossil fuels for the myriad of excellent reasons that aren't related to CO2 emissions.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Some people are not going to realize what's happening until it's in THEIR front yard, and even then, they will put on their scientist hat (as they do here) and their political blinders, and claim it's natural and not caused by anything humans do.

This. We can measure the effects of man made climate change in real time (the fact that each subsequent year is a record heat year is a testament to this). Climate change IS effecting people in the States, and those very same people are STILL denying that it is happening.

Or....is it possible when an ice age ends the temps rise????

Oh no couldnt be that, i mean if i unplug the fridge it isnt like every hour the temp will rise constantly....ih ya, that is exactly what would happen.

Your arguement is proof of nothing but the fact temps increase once an ice age ends.....

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I have an idea. It's called desalination. Build 1000s of desalination plants across the globe and build reservoirs for the desalinated water.

We need the fresh water and maybe we can pump enough water out of the ocean and into man made reservoirs to save these cities. Or at least some of them.

It's a simple math question.

How many gallons of water is predicted to be released each year by melting caps? How many desalination plants need to be built to remove that amount of water from the oceans each year? And what sea level rise if any can be allowed without catastrophic consequences?

We need the fresh water, our farmers need the fresh water, and we could build really cool reservoirs in desert and planes regions that would be a benefit to wildlife and humanity.

It seems that the cost of building desalination plants and reservoirs would be no more then the cost to rebuild entire cities and relocate millions of people globally.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Krazysh0t

NO political rats can do a darn about earth changing patterns, the problem with the government is that they wants to pass the cost of having to move large cities and people from their expensive coastal man made real state inland, that's going to cost money, somebody have to pay for it.

The whole global warming scam is about how to profit the most when Earth starts to reclaim expensive coastal property.

That is why humans needs to be made responsible for Earth cycles, because after all you can not tax earth.

Well if sea-levels are going to rise, there's going to be more coastline elsewhere, so the wealthy will naturally want to migrate to those luxury marinas and beachfront properties.

The Dutch have a lot of experience with this problem. They maintain their flood defenses and keep the rivers flowing. They were even planning on building floating cities.

time.com...

www.theguardian.com...

Norway does the same, they converted old warehouses sitting in the river into homes. Even some of their hotels are actually over the water (Scandic, Radisson Blu).

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I can spend an entire post on how the global warming is a trillion dollar agenda, but you will still post the same information, all you have to do is search on the most profitable investments on stock indexes on clima change and you will see the big names behind the agenda.

But I guess you are only to research on what the government paid for you to get information on.

You asked for evidence. I gave it to you. Now you are dismissing it without reading it as well as without your own counter evidence? That's not very intellectually honest.

Clima change is a natural part of earth cycles and we humans are the last of natures problems.

You keep saying this (and since you keep spelling Climate as Clima you must be copy/pasting it) in bold, but you've yet to prove it. I've posted TONS of evidence in the thread for my position. Where are your links?

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: marg6043

Nature have always been there, has always been changing and the only reason we are feeling this changes now is because we are in natures way.

Just a heads up. This is a provable statement. Do you have any evidence that all these drastic changes we are seeing are SOLELY the fault of nature? Or, as I suspect, you are just letting your preconceived opinions dictate your facts without thoroughly vetting all the evidence? Because the evidence that scientists have been collecting says you are wrong. Completely wrong.

Ah, there is that certainty that we all love to see on this topic.

I guess The Science is settled.

I'm not saying that and at all AND I really hate the term "settled science". Don't put words in my mouth.

a reply to: johnwick

The point is that WE are causing these changes. The climate wouldn't be DOING the things its doing if it weren't for human society and its emission wastes.

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude

Stop confusing the narrative. Man made climate change and natural climate change work in tandem to do their destruction. Though man made climate change has effected the climate MUCH differently than the Earth's natural processes should be effecting it. Hence it is real.

What proof is thereof that?

Climate models?

Models made by people that get paid to make models that prove AGW?

Cmon man....

Read the thread. I've already posted this evidence in it.

a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

This is complete nonsense as I showed here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Isurrender73

Um... Do you know how expansive desalination is? I mean if it were that simple we'd already have DONE that for the looming freshwater crisis we have on the horizon.

originally posted by: johnwick

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Some people are not going to realize what's happening until it's in THEIR front yard, and even then, they will put on their scientist hat (as they do here) and their political blinders, and claim it's natural and not caused by anything humans do.

This. We can measure the effects of man made climate change in real time (the fact that each subsequent year is a record heat year is a testament to this). Climate change IS effecting people in the States, and those very same people are STILL denying that it is happening.

Or....is it possible when an ice age ends the temps rise????

Oh no couldnt be that, i mean if i unplug the fridge it isnt like every hour the temp will rise constantly....ih ya, that is exactly what would happen.

Your arguement is proof of nothing but the fact temps increase once an ice age ends.....

And your argument is a bunch of words without any evidence backing it up.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: johnwick

Dude I can't believe you're still after this after getting such an ass whooping in that thread a few months back. You gotta check your poor reasoning before trying to play this game again. I don't care to pick apart what you're throwing, but if someone does you're gonna look like a clown yet again.

What asswhoopin are you refering to?

I dont recall that, though i do tend to get busy IRL abd forget to come back to these " bang your head against a wall" threads.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I already posted the 1.7 trillion reason, up to 2011, by now the trillions are growing, how about that.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: deadeyedick

They are saying that sea levels will rise because of the warmer climate melting all the polar ice. More water in the ocean means higher water levels.

Rising ocean levels could be the least of the problems if ocean currents are affected. Currents drive the planets weather.

earth.usc.edu...

Now you are talking about something real that has already affected our world.

Vice had a decent special about it and tried to tie it into global warming and I am not sure if they go together but whatever is causing those changes in currents are real measurable and can potentially effect the world.

nothing will be done because every crisis is a profit opportunity.....history is full of them.