More Than 400 U.S. Cities May Be 'Past The Point Of No Return' With Sea Level Threats

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Do you have any data that prove that what is been happening with the propaganda of man made clima change is real and not something made for the sole reason of creating a problem that actually is been there but now has become very profitable.?

I can post links from NASA, IPCC, various colleges and universities around the world, as well as tons of articles from peer reviewed journals all saying this is real. It all depends on if you want to believe that source or just take the lazy way out and say that that information is tainted.

As for if Climate Change is propaganda or not. What does this article say to you?

Deeper Ties to Corporate Cash for Doubtful Climate Researcher

One of the names they invoke most often is Wei-Hock Soon, known as Willie, a scientist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics who claims that variations in the sun’s energy can largely explain recent global warming. He has often appeared on conservative news programs, testified before Congress and in state capitals, and starred at conferences of people who deny the risks of global warming.

But newly released documents show the extent to which Dr. Soon’s work has been tied to funding he received from corporate interests.

He has accepted more than $1.2 million in money from the fossil-fuel industry over the last decade while failing to disclose that conflict of interest in most of his scientific papers. At least 11 papers he has published since 2008 omitted such a disclosure, and in at least eight of those cases, he appears to have violated ethical guidelines of the journals that published his work.

Document: Funding That Climate Researcher Failed to Disclose
The documents show that Dr. Soon, in correspondence with his corporate funders, described many of his scientific papers as “deliverables” that he completed in exchange for their money. He used the same term to describe testimony he prepared for Congress.

Here's another link:
Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study

Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine a major climate change report due to be published today.

Letters sent by the American Enterprise Institute (AEI), an ExxonMobil-funded thinktank with close links to the Bush administration, offered the payments for articles that emphasise the shortcomings of a report from the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Meanwhile, this is about the IPCC:
How does the IPCC work?

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is a huge and yet very small organization. Thousands of scientists from all over the world contribute to the work of the IPCC on a voluntary basis as authors, contributors and reviewers. None of them is paid by the IPCC. The work of the IPCC is guided by a set of principles and procedures.

How about proving that Climate Change denial isn't propaganda first?

Earth has always been changing, but now those changes that are actually part of nature has become an agenda.A priority, a political main topic, an economical opportunity, all that is a fact

Cima change is a trillion dollar agenda.

Prove it.

Just a little word of warning to all the denyers.....

Don't come up here in the High Desert Rockies looking for sympathy or a handout when your home is flooded. Call your insurance man!!

like in South Carolina.



www.cnn.com...

originally posted by: olaru12
Just a little word of warning to all the denyers.....

Don't come up here in the High Desert Rockies looking for sympathy or a handout when your home is flooded. Call your insurance man!!

like in South Carolina.



www.cnn.com...

Or avoid being stupid and if your city is already under sea levels with or without the global warming fad, move.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I don't like how they used the term 'cities'. Communities could be a more appropriate term IMO.

There is probably a town in florida with ten thousand people that may be affected, just like some small pacific islands are already feeling the bite yet the are off the radar because they are not a major city.

a reply to: Krazysh0t
What specifically is causing people to assume such?

What history shows us that this is possible?

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Krazysh0t
What specifically is causing people to assume such?

What history shows us that this is possible?

For the THIRD time in the thread now, here is the report

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Do you have any data that prove that what is been happening with the propaganda of man made clima change is real and not something made for the sole reason of creating a problem that actually is been there but now has become very profitable.?

Earth has always been changing, but now those changes that are actually part of nature has become an agenda.A priority, a political main topic, an economical opportunity, all that is a fact

Cima change is a trillion dollar agenda.

Don't waste your time.The climate change nuts will just put their fingers in their ears and stamp their feet.They're not worth the time.

originally posted by: olaru12
Just a little word of warning to all the denyers.....

Don't come up here in the High Desert Rockies looking for sympathy or a handout when your home is flooded. Call your insurance man!!

like in South Carolina.



www.cnn.com...

So you want have a solution to man made global warming, but you want to punish everyone who doesn't believe the same as you. This sounds more and more like a political ideology than a climate issue.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

I can spend an entire post on how the global warming is a trillion dollar agenda, but you will still post the same information, all you have to do is search on the most profitable investments on stock indexes on clima change and you will see the big names behind the agenda.

But I guess you are only to research on what the government paid for you to get information on.

Clima change is a natural part of earth cycles and we humans are the last of natures problems.

a reply to: DBCowboy

You can believe what ever you want. Just man up and take some personal responsibility for your thoughts and actions. How is that political?

However, don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense!

a reply to: marg6043

See, I think it's just the opposite. It's the oil barrons who are funding false results in their favor.

They would rather relinquish the planet than their billions.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: deadeyedick
a reply to: Krazysh0t
What specifically is causing people to assume such?

What history shows us that this is possible?

For the THIRD time in the thread now, here is the report

Specifically what is happening that alarms them?

I am not a scientist so if you could dumb it down for me that would be great.

I understand that the say the levels will rise but I ask why?

srry I have no way to check that file for germs

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: marg6043

Nature have always been there, has always been changing and the only reason we are feeling this changes now is because we are in natures way.

Just a heads up. This is a provable statement. Do you have any evidence that all these drastic changes we are seeing are SOLELY the fault of nature? Or, as I suspect, you are just letting your preconceived opinions dictate your facts without thoroughly vetting all the evidence? Because the evidence that scientists have been collecting says you are wrong. Completely wrong.

Ah, there is that certainty that we all love to see on this topic.

I guess The Science is settled.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TrueBrit

Well then, what do you think will cost less: building adequate levees and dikes for 414 cities to maintain their populations and then even more on the subsequent cities that fall underwater as nothing is done or spending it on reducing carbon emissions so that we can save as many cities as we can?

The world has never been static.

The coast lines will change and evolve, we cannot stop this process from happening...period.

Either embrace this obvious fact and plan on adapting with an ever changing world, or go the way of the dinos.

There is nothing we can do to stop an always changing world.

We can onky adapt as it changes or perish.

Keep your doom porn that is based on bs in the fictional catagory where it belongs.

Honestly this whole cities going under thing I've never worried or understood. We can build with new infrastructure more intelligently elsewhere. Much easier to start fresh than revamp what's already laid out.

Only thing that's tripped me out about AGW is the potential for runaway greenhouse scenario. Pretty much just the methane releases that could really trip things up for the species.

It just seems weird how we're tripping out over things that are essentially non-issues for the species with our current tech, knowledge, and ability to communicate so far so easily and rapidly.

Aren't we tripping out about unemployment and what not? Hey, here's a jobs creator, except probably be the robits by the time our lazy bums get to it.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: network dude

Stop confusing the narrative. Man made climate change and natural climate change work in tandem to do their destruction. Though man made climate change has effected the climate MUCH differently than the Earth's natural processes should be effecting it. Hence it is real.

What proof is thereof that?

Climate models?

Models made by people that get paid to make models that prove AGW?

Cmon man....

a reply to: deadeyedick

They are saying that sea levels will rise because of the warmer climate melting all the polar ice. More water in the ocean means higher water levels.

a reply to: johnwick

Dude I can't believe you're still after this after getting such an ass whooping in that thread a few months back. You gotta check your poor reasoning before trying to play this game again. I don't care to pick apart what you're throwing, but if someone does you're gonna look like a clown yet again.

a reply to: angeldoll

Im sure that the oil barons would want to keep their profits the way they are, but they are also savvy investors and you bet that they have already their hands on the global warming investing scams that are only for the eyes of the very wealthy.

Interestingly they have been investing heavily in the global warming since the beginning, this kind of makes you think about how far they go when it comes to the global warming agenda.

Up to 2007 the oil and gas industry had invested 100 billion dollars on clean energy, just think about why they will do that.

How Much Are Oil and Gas Companies Investing in Clean Alternative Fuels?

www.dpc.senate.gov...

By 2011 they had invested almost $1.7 trillion,

dailycaller.com...


We are been played by the global warming backers agendas, That is why I stand by my opinion behind the global warming scam.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: DBCowboy

You can believe what ever you want. Just man up and take some personal responsibility for your thoughts and actions. How is that political?

However, don't let your ideology get in the way of your common sense!

How is my "manning up" going to affect the climate? Again, I think this is a larger issue. The solutions aren't going to be palatable. So it would be better to get as many people on board to endorse man made climate change.