Proxy War Between Russia, USA, Iran And Various Countries IN Syria

Cuba forces are now seen in Syria helping Assad.

a reply to: Isurrender73

You don't understand the reality of the situation. Obama is the first black president. He will not be impeached because that would be racist.

He has done things to defy the law before and nothing was done about it for the same reason. The party that could do something, the opposition, doesn't want to look racist, and his own party could see him murder small children and eat baby kittens live on national TV and they would still defend him for it.

a reply to: bjarneorn

China imports 19% of its oil from Saudi, 16% from Iran and Iraq combined and 14% from Angola, 6% from Venezuela and 4% from Kazakstan. Except for Saudi, rest are better friends with Russia.

www.statista.com...

It is in China's better interests that especially Iran and Iraq (which are nearest to China btw) are at better terms and not under ISIS especially Iraq (which is partially under the ISIS).

There was a point made that US is the biggest importer of Chinese goods. However, cutting Chinese imports would result in higher prices in the US which in turn will cause less demand, recession and closing of businesses. This world is full of double edged swords.

Who is saying China is fighting the US. Infact PLA will be assisting the US in ME where nearly every "free and civilized" nation is fighting the fanatic jihadists.

originally posted by: [post=19924440]tsurfer2000h

Not caring about killing civilians shows it can be worse.

You're something else ...

You think "dumping" weapons down onto "rebells" is "caring about civilians? Or, creating ISIS is?

Sorry kid, that borders on retardism ... having one sided analogy is one thing, but seriously thinking that your government cares about civilians, when they are waging war all over the world, is something else. If you'd come along and say "well, we want to change the world and you can't do that without breaking some eggs ...". Sure, I can get that stand.

But seriously, and honestly thinking that your Government cares about Civilians ... that's being retarded. There is something "seriously" wrong with that gray matter. Creating ISIS, giving them weapons ... that's caring about civilians? I'm sure all the beheaded people ... just love you. And, what are you liberating them from ... their lives? their dignity, as in Abu Grahib? Maybe your liberating them, from being able to have normal children ... as in Fallujah?

Bud, Germany is a stooge country ... whatever Germany says isn't relevant. France, they just don't wanna piss you off. The rest of Europe ... spineless twerps, and that's just saying it as it is. They don't agree with you ... they just don't have the guts, to say it in your face.

If the US government, had any wits at all ... they'd make China and Russia, their allies. They may disagree on how to get things done ... but I tell, you don't disagree on WHAT to get done.

a reply to: victor7

You might like to check this vid out . Seems that China has oil interests in Iraq and appear to be joining the Russian/Syrian fight against IS ..

Heres Cuba joining the proxy war in support of the Syrian government.

www.foxnews.com...
Top Cuban general, key forces in Syria to aid Assad, Russia, sources say
Cuban military operatives reportedly have been spotted in Syria, where sources believe they are advising President Bashar al-Assad’s soldiers and may be preparing to man Russian-made tanks to aid Damascus in fighting rebel forces backed by the U.S.

Gen. Leopoldo Cintra Frias, head of Cuba's Armed Forces, recently visited Syria to lead a group of Cuban military personnel joining forces with Russia in their support of Assad, according to information received by the University of Miami's Institute for Cuban and Cuban-American Studies.

Lindsey Graham: There's A 'Coalition From Hell' In Syria
Russia has new allies in Cuban special forces as it escalates involvement in Syria. GOP presidential candidate Lindsey Graham goes 'On the Record' to say Obama 'doesn't know what he's doing'.

More from Fox news on how we are in a proxy war. Some deny it, some say its happening. . . . .



Amb. Gnehm: You Can't Deny There's A Proxy War In Syria
Former deputy assistant secretary of state and defense takes issue with White House insistence that conflict in Syria would not turn into a proxy war between the U.S. and Russia.

ftr- France was ready to go into Syria on the ground when the "Red Line" issue was afoot. Obama's backing down forced cancellation of extensive plans of the French.

More info on Cuba special forces on the ground and aiding the government in Syria.


US Official: Evidence of Cuban troops on the ground in Syria

Americas so stupid.

A proxy war where America is supporting outright jihad terrorists NOT against any communist or jihadi radicals but an elected secular government!


The number of moderates in Syria are miniscule and if all the jihadists left and alone where the “moderates” who may have never existed, there would be peace.


There is no proxy here, its all a scam.


Russia and China, and Iran will make clear they will save Assad and do whatever it takes including China coming in and I hear even Cuba

America your going to loose this one


There is no body to fight for here but your geopolitical sinister skullduggery

And along came India to visit thier Iranian friends, note they arent in Syria nor was it mentioned at all, but they appear to be an ally of Iran. I see a coalition of BRICS members with Iran allies forming. .. . .

www.presstv.ir...

Admiral Amir Hossein Azad, the commander of Iran’s First Naval Zone, said the Indian warship is visiting Iran to promote peace and security in the region and improve Tehran-New Delhi ties in security and economic fields.

He added that Iran and India play a leading role in regional peace and security and said, “The world now believes that Iran is the axis of stability and security in the region.”

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Moscow targeting CIA backed rebels because they are the one's that have anti-tank weapons given by the US.

Why does not US understand that Secular dictatorship like Assad is the best solution for middle east. These dictators need to release some more freedoms and business opportunities to the people and rest should be just fine.

Regarding Indians sending their warship........that is equivalent to send fishermen boats. With India sucking up to the US so much recently, it is highly unlikely or rather totally unlikely that Indians will back, even verbally, any Russia led coalition in Syria.

I think Indians are making some commercial port in Iran to create a sea-road link to Central Asia and Russia, so they are getting close Iranians in certain ways.

So the allies of Assad are increasing thier troops and giving the government various weaponry. I see this war may spread into neighboring countries that are training terrorists.

gulfnews.com...

2,000 Iranians join regime in battle for Aleppo in Syria
Beirut: Syrian troops backed by Russian air power and allied militias opened a new front Friday against rebels around the second city of Aleppo, where Washington said up to 2,000 Iran-backed forces were deployed.

The offensive came as Turkey said it had downed a drone of unknown origin that violated its airspace close to the Syrian border, and a monitor said the death toll in the conflict had risen to more than 250,000.

The Aleppo offensive is the fourth that President Bashar Al Assad’s regime has launched since Moscow began an air campaign on September 30.

Control of Aleppo city, once the country’s economic hub, has been divided between the regime and rebels since mid-2012. The front lines there and in the surrounding countryside have long been static.

originally posted by: JHumm
What is the US going to say when the weapons that they supply to a group gets used against our own troops?
Sooner or later it WILL happen again.

What is the US going to say? We (she) already said it...



Yes, we funded them 20+ years ago and we fought them later. And we funded the new group recently and Russia is trying to make sure we don't have to fight them in 20+ years... isn't Russia nice?

I find it laughable how so many Americans can continually watch the constant meddling and intrusiveness of our government for the sole purpose of war profiteering and condemn ANY government around the world. America is the f@#king Evil Empire and people are still blindly - "WOOHOO 'MURIKA!"

originally posted by: reldra
RT and FOX? lol. Who are these insurgents? Well, could be ISIS they mean...but really, Assad and now Putin are attacking the Syrian people- the majority that have been trying to get Assad out. Very simple, no reason to try to make it sound complaicated.

Please proove it, because ALL (100%) of ALL News Sources for the MidEast show The Syrian People Support & VOTED for President Assad, so show the oppsite will ya.

Here is some satire humor of the terrorists trying to shoot down a jet and failing badly. . . The proxy war isnt going in thier favor. . . .


ISIS attempt to shoot down Russian jet and fail [humor][ENG subs]

originally posted by: Willtell
Americas so stupid.

A proxy war where America is supporting outright jihad terrorists NOT against any communist or jihadi radicals but an elected secular government!

Farcically "elected", and in truth secular hereditary one-party dictatorship.

originally posted by: victor7
a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Moscow targeting CIA backed rebels because they are the one's that have anti-tank weapons given by the US.

Why does not US understand that Secular dictatorship like Assad is the best solution for middle east. These dictators need to release some more freedoms and business opportunities to the people and rest should be just fine.

Actually it seems that traditional monarchies are the best bet. Secular dictatorships can end up very harsh and ideological and unstable (Nasser, Saddam, ...)

How much crap has come out of Jordan, Abu Dhabi, Oman, Morocco? Iran before the revolution was a monarchy, and so was Iraq before the Baath coup.

Saudi Arabia is of course the worst one, but there the monarchy is less radical than the populace.

a reply to: victor7
theconservativetreehouse.com... done deal...

originally posted by: mbkennel

originally posted by: Willtell
Americas so stupid.

A proxy war where America is supporting outright jihad terrorists NOT against any communist or jihadi radicals but an elected secular government!

Farcically "elected", and in truth secular hereditary one-party dictatorship.

Where's your evidence other than posting words to the contrary???