First Democratic Debate

Going through the graphs at realclearpolitics.com, it looks like the election might be between Clinton and Carson. At this point, the results show Carson beating Clinton.

Things might change if Biden runs. I predict a surge for "not those other candidates". I also predict an outbreak of alcohol poisoning after the announcement.

originally posted by: ladyinwaiting

I hope we haven't dropped so low in our commercialism and youth worship, that we would rule out a President based on age. Yes, Perhaps Bernie Sanders hearing is not as acute as it once was, but his brain seems to be doing a hell of a job. His thought processes, reasoning abilities, cognitive functioning are still on the money. Don't mistake hearing loss as a detriment.

It wasn't just the obvious hearing problem.
He gripped the podium for support when not gesturing.
He fumbled something under the podium and had to
stoop to get it. (the camera was off him for the most
part, but it could be clearly seen in the far left side
of the screen)

Just look at the physical difference between
he and Biden who is only 2 years younger, yet they appear
10 or more years apart, that is a big tell about his
physicality.
Biden will most likely live a lot longer than Bernie.

You know the physical toll the Presidency takes
on a person. I'm not sure that Sanders, who
appears older than he is already, can stand
the 10 years of stress that the job puts on a
man in less then 4 years.

This comment has nothing to do with his
mental acuity or reasoning skills,
it is simply a comment on his ability
to withstand the rigors of the office
without dying of natural causes
before the term ends.



Now look at an average 73 year old man/half way between Joe and Bernie



Compare it to Bernie


You can see where Bernie is actually much more aged than Joe
who is only 2 years younger and is much more aged than a man
only 1 year younger who is average looking for his age.

I find it amusing that Americans expect their president to be some kind of "Rambo" figure.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I find it amusing that Americans expect their president to be some kind of "Rambo" figure.

Not me.

I want most intelligent and most experienced.

And Separation of Church and State.

Sorry I missed the 'debate'.

But let's be honest here.

Heard the Democrat platform once.

It doesn't change.

The progressives. Just love to recycle their talking points.

Did they really say anything new?

a reply to: MystikMushroom
I expect a president to be knowledgeable, intelligent, logical, soft spoken, and honest.

Tyson Nye 2016!

a reply to: gentledissident

If only! We would have Mars colonized in 8 years

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: gentledissident

If only! We would have Mars colonized in 8 years

Well, that would depend on if there is some kind of treaty with ET - - as some have suggested.

Would I vote for Tyson? Hell Yeah!

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That is pretty much it. Sanders is to the Left wing Establishment what Ron Paul is/was to the Right Wing establishment and for better or worse we can expect similar outcomes. Bernie will rally the base, but can't carry the middle.

I don't say this because I wish it so...but it is going to be Jeb and Hillary, the rest is just going through the motions.

a reply to: Indigo5
How will Jeb turn the tide?
2016 Republican Presidential Nomination Poll
Scroll down for graph.

originally posted by: Indigo5
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I don't say this because I wish it so...but it is going to be Jeb and Hillary, the rest is just going through the motions.

NOOOOOOOOO!

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I find it amusing that Americans expect their president to be some kind of "Rambo" figure.

Not Rambo, just a guy that can stand a state of the union without taking a nap in the middle

originally posted by: gentledissident
a reply to: Indigo5
How will Jeb turn the tide?
2016 Republican Presidential Nomination Poll
Scroll down for graph.

The same way Romney turned the tide after the insane roller coaster of a nomination cycle...by staying steady...In 2012, Bachmann led the field dramatically at one point, Ditto Herman Cain, Santorum, Rick Perry etc.

this is a long game...not a sprint. Those who sprint this early on burn-up under the lights. Jeb and Hillary have been intentionally letting their competitors get the heat of exposure early on.

originally posted by: neo96
Sorry I missed the 'debate'.

But let's be honest here.

Heard the Democrat platform once.

It doesn't change.

The progressives. Just love to recycle their talking points.

Did they really say anything new?

No nothing new.

They just re-hashed all their failures and came up with the same solutions that have already failed.

a reply to: xuenchen

Sanders and CLinton scare the hell out of me.

Looks like they are doubling down on stupidity.

Sanders:

Anderson Cooper asked Bernie Sanders if he considered himself a capitalist. Sanders answered, “Do I consider myself part of the casino capitalist process by which so few have so much and so many have so little by which Wall Street greed and recklessness wrecked this economy? No, I do not.”

ormer Sec. State Clinton jumped in, “When I think about capitalism I think about all the small business that were started because we have the opportunity and freedom in our country for people to do that and to make a good living for themselves and their families, and I don’t we should confuse what we have to every so often in America which is save capitalism from itself, and I think what Sen. Sanders is saying certainly makes sense in terms of the inequality that we have, but we are not Denmark. I love Denmark, but we are the United States of America, and it’s our job to reign in the excesses of capitalism and doesn’t cause the kind of inequities in our system.”

www.politicususa.com...

The Democrats need to rename their party to what they are.

The communist party.

Their talking points come straight out of the communist manifesto.

We are looking at over 40 trillion dollars in NEW debt if we have another democratic administration.

That isn't fear mongering.

That isn't a stretch of their platform.

They have to 'save' the people from the excesses of capitalism.

They want the state to totally control the economy.

Last night’s debate, while a whopper for CNN and the Dems, still falls short of the 22.9 million viewers who’d watched CNN’s three-hour-plus GOP debate in mid September.

deadline.com...

A sign of things to come ?

originally posted by: neo96

Last night’s debate, while a whopper for CNN and the Dems, still falls short of the 22.9 million viewers who’d watched CNN’s three-hour-plus GOP debate in mid September.

deadline.com...

A sign of things to come ?

And "Desperate Housewives" got more viewers than the GOP debate...

You are confusing viewership with political leaning or support. Everyone watched the GOP debate to see Trump say crazy stuff...and he did not disappoint!

Whatever your leanings, the Democratic Debates were indisputably a stark contrast to the GOP debates in the maturity and questions of substance category. If nothing else, the debates showed the Dems as "grown-ups" compared to the reality TV show the GOP Debates appeared to be. And I can say that without speaking to Dem or GOP politics.

a reply to: Indigo5

Yeah because they didn't last 3 hours, and they didn't take pot shots at each other at the behest of the 'moderator'.

Stark contrast indeed because the left never treats their own like they treat the right.

a reply to: neo96

Wow...

You do realize that in order for your post to make sense...the GOP must be the party of Economic Inequity?

Hell...You are freaking out because Bernie bemoaned the Wall Street induced near economic collapse and the Wall Street (Socialist) Bailouts that followed?

And cuz Hillary Clinton thinks about Capitalism for "Small Businesses"...said "we are not Denmark"...but spoke about reigning in the excesses?

You don't agree that regulation has a place in banking or wall-street?

a reply to: neo96

People watched for Trump, it is like tuning in to a Nascar race to wait for the crash but really could care less about the race it's self.