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originally posted by: Vdogg
Type 0 civilization meets Type 2....Not a good scenario. It's akin to us meeting, not cavemen, but the slightly evolved primates that came before them. What we are observing is something that occurred 1500 years ago. In the unlikely scenario that this pans out, they were constructing megastructures when we were living in villages hunting animals with bows and spears and picking nuts and berries. If it really is aliens ( unlikely) our best bet would be to simply observe, and not say a word.
originally posted by: wildespace
originally posted by: jjsr420
originally posted by: SBargisen
a reply to: Vdogg
I don't believe that, honestly.
With intelligence comes respect and reasoning. They would have nothing to fear from us, nor would they have anything to harvest on Earth. Everything on Earth is abundant everywhere in the universe.
Then explain all of humanities wars.
Ditto. If the height of intelligence is reflected by the (deceitful) image of freedom and democracy so venerably spearheaded by the USA, which has contributed to, or directly caused, so many conflicts and violence across the world, then perhaps intelligence is not the best way for life to exist. After we make ourselves extinct on this planet, it's the more primitive life forms that will survive and carry on the "organic" history of Earth.
Besides Kepler’s ability of finding small, rocky worlds orbiting distant stars, it can also detect different space phenomenon like stellar flares, star spots and dusty planetary rings.
This time however, Kepler detected the signal of a supposed vast artificial structure orbiting a star only 1,500 light years away from Earth.
After finishing all plausible explanations, scientists now believe that this complex structure might be an artificial construction made by an advanced alien civilization way up on the Kardashev scale of comparison.
originally posted by: deccal
Phage, I wonder what do you think about this discovery? Is there a kind of advertisement campaign behind all this hype or more?
originally posted by: deccal
a reply to: slip2break
Ah yes, sure it is an observation, my mistake. Thanks for the input. So the comets are orbiting the star?
originally posted by: ObsidianEclipse
a reply to: masqua
A while ago on a separate thread I looked at the logistics of constructing a Dyson sphere, even something with a fairly thin shell would require vastly more mass and energy than is contained in an entire solar system to actually create so it's unlikely anyone/thing would want to build one. Even if you did and moved it to another star again you face the issue of the amount of energy to move it would outweigh any gains. The net gravity centre point on such a structure would mean it wouldnt track a star as such and so you would have to be continually adjusting it's trajectory which is another vast expenditure of energy. Even a strip such as the one illustrated likely has more mass contained within it that all the planets and star itself could be harvested to provide, so if you could spontaneously create such large amounts of mass and energy there would be no need to harvest a star in the first place. A Dyson swarm is much more likely in my view as a realistic method of efficiently harvesting a stars energy, the lower mass wouldn't provide so many issues and would be more sustainable in orbiting the star.
originally posted by: thedoctorswife
a reply to: datasdream
I was wondering, and you may know the answer, Kepler looked at an area with 150,000 stars and none of them had the same light anomolie as Tabby s star, so, if this is down to a large comet cloud, then are these clouds THAT rare?