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SETI: On the Verge of a Breakthrough?

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posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 03:54 AM
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My god, the hype if this is real.




posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 10:04 AM
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All of the natural, astrophysical explanations for the extraordinary dimming of the star KIC 8462852 have been considered and were quickly found to be unworkable, save one. That one is the disintegration of comets, possibly drawn near the star by the perturbing gravity of an intruder star that passed nearby. It is maintained that the gas and dust debris from these comets could be what is blocking the star's light.
This would have to be an extraordinary amount of debris, to block up to 22 percent of the light from the star. The large amount of dust involved would absorb and scatter the star's light, turning it from visible light to infra-red. Unfortunately for the cometary scenario, though, there is this observational fact: Such infrared radiation has been carefully looked for. It wasn't found.

The high improbability of the last known natural explanation for the dimming of the star has, quite rightly, suggested to reputable, responsible scientists another possibility. That possibility is that some artificial structures have been established in orbit of the star KIC 8462852 by an advanced civilization in space.
edit on 19-10-2015 by Ross 54 because: improved paragraph structure.



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: ninjadan9
I'm guessing it's a planet the size of Jupiter that happens to be in the right place at the right time. It's very plausible that it was a planet that is 22% the size of the star than extra-terrestrial objects. Eclipses happen all the time and this is more likely to be found on other stars.


I've read somewhere (can't remember where) Jupiter would only cause about 1% decline of the suns light from that distance. And planets don't come much bigger then Jupiter. This is one of the main reasons why they rule out a single big planet causing this irregular decline up to 22%.

Of all the theories going around, alien structures are of course the most fun to speculate about. But I haven't seen any theory of a possible big collision of two planets that recently (astronomically, some thousand years) might have taken place over there. Imagine Jupiter and Saturn after a heads on collision. Wouldn't that cause a huge field of debris, causing irregular declines of starlight?



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: ninjadan9

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord
Finally proof that there are advanced aliens I love it!


It's impossible to assume that extra-terrestrials built something around the star. You know how much material is needed to build something of that size? I don't think there is even enough material in the solar system to build something around our sun.


The light is only blocked once every 2 years, meaning whatever it is does no encompass the entire sun. While a perfect Dyson sphere in theory can encompass an entire sun, and harvest all the available energy, [there are also variations of Dyson Spheres which are smaller], likely if there are civilizations utilizing this technology it would not be so grand. Instead it would be more like a large array that captures a huge section of the stars output, but doesnt circle the entire star.

There are many variations on the Dyson Sphere, including Dyson rings, [like Halo] Dyson Swarm, Dyson Bubble, et al All things Dyson

If you have just a small portion of the star [say..enough to block the stars light every 2 years from outside observers] you would still be harnessing a huge amount of energy, enough to power your civilization.
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posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 12:06 PM
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The article linked below reports that the SETI Institute has begun to use its radio telescope, the Allen Telescope Array, in Northern California, to monitor the star KIC 8462852 for intelligent radio signals.

www.space.com...



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 12:11 PM
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a reply to: chrismir

The current hypotheses on what it might be are: A recently captured asteroid field, a cloud of disintegrating comets due to elliptical orbits around the star, and finally the simplest answer would be interstellar clouds or something in between causing the light to get drowned out.

That being said, even the most likely explanations have some doubt cast around them, though if you look back almost every initial observations with the potential for 'it might be aliens' has turned out to be a more mundane explanation.

[Back when mars was first observed at higher magnification someone said 'without a doubt' Mars is inhabited, because of the 'tunnels' they saw on the surface]

It's just a waiting game now, in January we should get our answer, hopefully.



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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originally posted by: Ross 54
The article linked below reports that the SETI Institute has begun to use its radio telescope, the Allen Telescope Array, in Northern California, to monitor the star KIC 8462852 for intelligent radio signals.

www.space.com...



Which is cool, but considering it takes light 1500 years to travel, it's entirely possible they weren't sending out signals back then. Although, to be at a Type II civilization, they'd probably have been sending them out for that long or longer.

All depends on how fast their civilization advanced technologically. When you consider Moores Law the former actually seems possible vs the latter.



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Ross 54
The article linked below reports that the SETI Institute has begun to use its radio telescope, the Allen Telescope Array, in Northern California, to monitor the star KIC 8462852 for intelligent radio signals.

www.space.com...


This is a quote




"No problem with that; I think we ought to, for sure," Shostak told Space.com. But, he added, people "should perhaps moderate their enthusiasm with the lessons of history."



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: Hyperia

If a civilisation harness the power of the Sun, you can be sure, the civilisation is interested in labour and will kill off the people who isnt duable as labour.. Just cause it is a type 2 civilisation doesnt mean it fits the purpose of our way of life..
Im pretty sure they will resort to a natural balance and not a humane way of life for the entire world population.. Be careful when dealing with cultures more advanced.. They tend to see things differently..



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 04:21 PM
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Michio Kaku was on fox news, could have been on a much more trustworthy network, earlier to discuss this. I haven't found the video yet



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: Hyperia

originally posted by: Ross 54
The article linked below reports that the SETI Institute has begun to use its radio telescope, the Allen Telescope Array, in Northern California, to monitor the star KIC 8462852 for intelligent radio signals.

www.space.com...


This is a quote




"No problem with that; I think we ought to, for sure," Shostak told Space.com. But, he added, people "should perhaps moderate their enthusiasm with the lessons of history."




Nice. Let the investigation into this commence. I was under the impression it wouldn't begin until January, so this is a pleasant surprise. Still exciting nonetheless.


Regarding this as one of the more tantalizing SETI targets thus far and also being highly skeptical are not mutually exclusive.

Peace.



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: AceWombat04

Yeah they jumped it, so lets theorize an Alien from that planet was on earth and they were interested in hijacking the transmission, but they cant cause the transmission is transdimensional.
Sci-fi s***, no but in all seriousness, it was january..



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 07:05 PM
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It was Dr. Wright and the SETI project at the University of California, Berkeley who applied for time on the large radio telescope at Green Bank, West Virginia, in January, 2016.
The SETI Institute is a different, private organization which has its own radio telescope, the Allen Telescope Array, in Northern California. It is the organization that is listening to KIC 8462852 right now.



posted on Oct, 19 2015 @ 10:06 PM
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This has to be one of the coolest finds in a long time,
regardless of whether or not it is an advanced civilization. If it is, holy crap!
If not, then it is something new to science, and worthy of study at least until they know what it is. It gives a distance mark for telescopes in the near future to gaze at while they figure out what is going on 1480 light years away..
Exciting space news no matter what.

If there is life out there somewhere (and most of us believe there is something out there somewhere, there just has to be IMO)
and this turns out not to be it, at least we now know a few things about what we would know if a true discovery does happen. The biggest point being they have been observing this for 6 years before it came out that they had been, and that actually says a lot.

But we are either getting a crash course in alien mega structures that ARE out there or we now know what to expect a little better in the future if they do find one. By fine tuning observations, I'm pretty certain we will know one way or another what is going on there within 10 years,maybe 20. Maybe a lot sooner if we get lucky in trying to observe this star and create new forms of telescopes to fine tune what we can learn from it. I mean really, you need something to look at before you can make something to see it better, so now there is a possible target, and I imagine better finely tunes telescopes will be eyeballing it for years. Kind of a cool little target for astronomers.

I just hope if it IS a mega structure, that they don't have the technology to detect our telescopes observing them, because if you think about it, that could be one way alien civilizations make contact, one is more advanced and detects the telescope signals of the other observing it. Kind of like when the hair on the back of your neck stands up and you can feel someone eyeballing the back of your head, they might become aware of us because we became aware of them....

It all just fires the imagination!

Good science no matter what!

s&f



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:13 AM
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originally posted by: Hyperia
a reply to: AceWombat04

Yeah they jumped it, so lets theorize an Alien from that planet was on earth and they were interested in hijacking the transmission, but they cant cause the transmission is transdimensional.
Sci-fi s***, no but in all seriousness, it was january..


They didn't jump to this conclusion at all. The article specifically states they discovered this back in 2009, when they started ruling out all sorts of anomalies and going down the list of possibilities they started to scratch their heads, they then when to the public to have it peer reviewed until now, where they have come up with one strong possibility, and the last resort, aliens.

SETI is also not that intrigued, and it's approval isn't being pushed as they have a tight schedule to fit. But, there are other radio telescopes out there that can do what SETI does, so we will know within' a few months.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:15 AM
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originally posted by: Ross 54
It was Dr. Wright and the SETI project at the University of California, Berkeley who applied for time on the large radio telescope at Green Bank, West Virginia, in January, 2016.
The SETI Institute is a different, private organization which has its own radio telescope, the Allen Telescope Array, in Northern California. It is the organization that is listening to KIC 8462852 right now.


Much appreciated! Thanks for this clarification/distinction.
Cheers.

Peace.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

Incorrect, they came to the conclusion it is a comet/asteroid cloud.



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 09:58 AM
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Hey I think its aliens, this maybe soft disclosure happening here. . . . .

They may know exactly what it is and who as well and are feeding the media a few crumbs at a time. . . .



posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: boncho




It's just a waiting game now, in January we should get our answer, hopefully.


This is a hoax and clearly a viral gorilla advertisement for x-files

Case closed


Kidding aside, interesting possibilities but ....




thus, the team believes that the light signal might have been a cluster of exocomets that moved around the KIC 8462852, but others also consider the idea that it might have been a huge "alien megastructure."

The signal from the KIC 8462852 has not been the first. In 1967, astronomer Jocelyn Bell found regular signals from an area of the sky. These signals were later called LGM-1 or Little Green Men. Astronomers thought that it was a signal from an alien civilization, but it turned out to be a magnetized neutron star or a pulsar.



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posted on Oct, 20 2015 @ 10:54 AM
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Seriously, no one considder the fact that ITS NOT READY.... yet....


It will be done, when its done....


The DSphere that is....

Another 1500y and it will block 44%... And so on



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