If You're Young, The Job Outlook Is Grim No Matter Where You Live

The answer is not what anyone wants to hear, i will pray for them.

a reply to: machineintelligence
At least young people can still live with their Mom and Pop, try being 60, not as able bodied as you once were making job choice even slimmer and nobody wants to hire you.

Time for some kind of New Deal.

originally posted by: ugmold
a reply to: machineintelligence

Time for some kind of New Deal.

Amen. This is exactly what we need. A New philosophical approach to create jobs and spread the wealth.

Add - and we need to given a crap about our elders who built this country and our service men who protected it.

a reply to: machineintelligence

With the rise in automation I see the world for the young getting pretty bleak.

Don't worry the young un experienced workers usually take the minimum wage jobs and they are raising the minimum wage. So they will be making more money.

we might see a very hostile bunch of young folks looking for meaningful employment and finding few opportunities.

Nothing more scary to the establishment than angry young folks looking to put the blame on someone with energy and time on their hands. Expect to see legalized marijuana across the board.

They may well have to invent or do artwork in order to survive. Growing a lot of their own food by aquaponics and other micro-gardens may be required for their survival.

Actually that would be a positive thing IMO but I doubt they will allow or encourage self reliance or anything that encourages something other than mass consumption.

However if our economy were to tank and we lose the reign of the biggest and most frivolous consumers in the world:

Than I would expect based on todays gov't and oligopoly tactics is that the middle class will be squeezed to foot the bill to the point of extinction. Once the middle class is wiped out the masses will beg the gov't to get rid of unions, workers rights, benefits, and become a clone of Chinas working class in order to compete and bring back jobs from third world nations.

Luckily for us the TPP will allow for it to happen and Walmart would have already invested their 250 Million in bringing back manufacturing jobs to America.

At that point it will become common for our Jim Smith to work at call centers and pose as Reyansh .

originally posted by: machineintelligence

The world needs at least 600 million new jobs in the next decade for young people

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The World Bank has an unsettling message for young people around the globe: Whether you're male or female, live in Tunisia or the U.S., you will struggle to find a job.

With the rise in automation I see the world for the young getting pretty bleak. More and more jobs are due to be automated into the future so I think we might see a very hostile bunch of young folks looking for meaningful employment and finding few opportunities. They may well have to invent or do artwork in order to survive. Growing a lot of their own food by aquaponics and other micro-gardens may be required for their survival.

Well , we know what jobs to pursue. Seems computers along with a heavy dose of robotics classes should be all the rage in colleges especially tech colleges right now. Seems to me the young need to be a little practical. We see the problem, we see the end results, we see industries that will be expanding. What might be the smart move here?

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: machineintelligence

Than I would expect based on todays gov't and oligopoly tactics is that the middle class will be squeezed to foot the bill to the point of extinction. Once the middle class is wiped out the masses will beg the gov't to get rid of unions, workers rights, benefits, and become a clone of Chinas working class in order to compete and bring back jobs from third world nations.

Luckily for us the TPP will allow for it to happen and Walmart would have already invested their 250 Million in bringing back manufacturing jobs to America.

Ew, I can see this happening. Is socialism the answer?

a reply to: machineintelligence

Not me,

I'll be commissioning as an officer.

If they hadn't robbed so many pensions, maybe some of us could actually retire on what we worked so hard for and had stolen. Us staying in the job market longer (if we can or are fortunate enough to) sure isn't going to help.

I'm going to try to stay optimistic and hope that maybe more new jobs will be created in the renewable energy and medical fields or that salaries and consumerism get back to a level where one parent can afford to stay home or just have one job.

There's so much more to this.

a reply to: TheAmazingYeti

Is socialism the answer?

Their is no answer until the blatant corruption , revolving doors, and conflict of interest between gov't and oligopolies are addressed. Unfortunately the masses are to busy blaming the other party for the ill of this country to come together and tackle those real issues to ever make that happen. Squirrel ...

However, I always find that is seldom if ever that the best solution is one that fits all use cases. Perhaps a combination of political ideology is the better approach. However, again that is not feasible until you address the points I listed above.

Our job problem in America has been a disaster in slow motion for the past few decades. I've been watching companies here in the states close up shop and move overseas for cheaper labor with no consequence, other than to the poor workers who put their hearts and souls into those jobs for years, only to be given the boot.

Now it seems to be more of an epidemic. These mega-corporations are given no penalties or taxes for doing it either.

And of course, add the robots into the mix...

I have two kids. It's their future I really worry about.

If I had it to do all over again and wanted to reenter the job market....

I'd learn how to speak Chinese.

originally posted by: Metallicus
This is the age of entrepreneurship. People that are still looking to have a 'job', especially one that pays the bills, need to change with the times.

I quit my cushy, corporate job in 2005 and started my own businesses. It was tough for the first few years, but since then I haven't looked back.

Only entrepreneurship allows you to make exactly what you are worth and benefit 100% from the fruits of your own labor.

Yep. I started my own business at the beginning of the year after leaving a $200,000 a year job that offered no actual job security.

The answer, if you are still in the work force, is to get into fields where you can find employment.... Science, engineering, technology.,
Entry level jobs will decrease by 50% in the next 20 years.

Look at the fast food industry. If you go into a fast food establishment, what good is the person behind the register? You could easily punch the buttons that represent the food you want,. pay for it with your credit card and pick up the food when it's ready. Soon the burger cooking robots will prepare you meal. Instead of a dozen people in the burger joint, there will just be a few.

Other fields are the same. If you are smart and choose a career that will be in demand, you will have no problem earning a living. If you don't plan for the future you will have a sucky life

a reply to: machineintelligence

Or we can adopt an economic model that doesn't require every individual go out & work their lives away at a job?

Automation should be a major blessing for humanity. Imagine having swarms of robots doing all of our mining, construction, farming, and other physically intensive jobs. I can imagine a world like that, where robots make sure all societies have plentiful food, resources, and intricate infrastructures. Then most citizens could spend their free time bonding with family & pursuing their dreams.

In fact, I can't imagine a truly advanced civilization flourishing otherwise. I can't imagine an advanced race of intergalactic beings having 50-70% of their populations doing menial labor.

Or to put it another way, if I had the money, I'd create my own safe haven w/as much automation as possible. Then we could have some ridiculously small percentage of citizens control our automation network while our society focused on advancement. Things like sciences, philosophies, religious studies, arts, creating new technologies, etc.

Started my own business, and haven't looked back since.

As long as I can keep growing it, I'll be able to create jobs. I don't have to worry about where my next meal will come from either, also don't have to worry about getting "fired" or chewed out because the boss is in a bad mood. I didn't create some fancy tech firm or some new product, and I'm surely never going to be a billionaire, but when you run a business, you definitely only get back what you put in. If you work a job, you put in so much more than you get back, and running on that endless hamster wheel isn't for me.

a reply to: machineintelligence

Whether or not people want to admit it, we are entering the post-employment economy. Either we adjust to it and completely rethink how trade and society works or we just end up in a dystopia.

Eventually, we will need to retire the entire concept of "work = survival" and adopt a "work = personal fulfillment" model.

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: Metallicus
This is the age of entrepreneurship. People that are still looking to have a 'job', especially one that pays the bills, need to change with the times.

I quit my cushy, corporate job in 2005 and started my own businesses. It was tough for the first few years, but since then I haven't looked back.

Only entrepreneurship allows you to make exactly what you are worth and benefit 100% from the fruits of your own labor.

Yep. I started my own business at the beginning of the year after leaving a $200,000 a year job that offered no actual job security.

Haha so you clearly had a large amount of capital to start a business. And then you and Metallicus say young people need to start a business?

Young people don't have access to that type of start up cash unless it was daddy's, and you know damn well a bank wont loan that money to a young person.

originally posted by: Metallicus
This is the age of entrepreneurship. People that are still looking to have a 'job', especially one that pays the bills, need to change with the times.

I quit my cushy, corporate job in 2005 and started my own businesses. It was tough for the first few years, but since then I haven't looked back.

Only entrepreneurship allows you to make exactly what you are worth and benefit 100% from the fruits of your own labor.

Thanks for the heads up, I just threw in my towel on my current job weeks ago and am going to test the waters in that direction.

Based on your post I get that, it won't be an easy start, but I guess you gotta put your head into it and never look back..

originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: machineintelligence

The solution.

More people working less hours with full time moving from 40 to 30 hours without a cut in pay. The billion owners of the corporations and trillionaire bankers can afford it.

Automation should be improving the quality of life for all people, not making the top 1% wealthier.

Depending on the type of work (ie. knowledge based work like software engineering), it's not that easy to just cut hours - you might have a task that lasts a day at most). Project managers manage tasks, workcharts, timesheets, burndown charts.

The complexity of managing income tax collection is a disincentive for most employers to take on new staff.

a reply to: enlightenedservant

I agree completely.

I don't think people have enough imagination. People see the world today and believe they are stuck in the current version of the matrix.

We need a new philosophy. Unfortunately our kings are old world philosophers thinking global domination is somehow important.

Those currently pushing for a NWO don't have any imagination nor the mental capacity to be philosophers in the technological era.

There will be no end to the troubles of states, or of humanity itself, till philosophers become kings in this world, or till those we now call kings and rulers really and truly become philosophers, and political power and philosophy thus come into the same hands. - Plato

With America's system of democracy it would take just one charismatic leader, and the world would have no other choice to follow or be left behind.

It's time for a new matrix, one absent the elitism that has been present in every other form of the matrix that has been attempted. The slaves only put up with facisim for so long before they revolt. You would think the elitist would learn from history, but sadly they seem oblivious.

Man can not subdue man with the sword. But with sound philosophy all can be won over.