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Do Christians believe in Elemental Beings?

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posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 07:21 AM
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Are elemental beings like water spirits a part of Christianity? And if so, do Christians believe in it?

But first, what are elemental beings - here are some examples from WikiPedia:

-Gnome, being of earth
-Undine, being of water
-Sylph, being of air
-Salamander, being of fire

Here are some points that suggest that elementals are indeed a part of the Christian dogma:

1. When consecrating the Holy Water the Catolic Priest says:



Exorcisco te, creatura aquae!


, which directly translates to



I exorcise thee, water creature!


So, is the Holy Water "Blessing" is not a blessing at all - but rather an exorcism of water elemental supernatual creatures?

2. In the New Testament Luke 8:23-24 Jesus calms a storm by "rebuking" it:



23 As they sailed, he fell asleep. A squall came down on the lake, so that the boat was being swamped, and they were in great danger.

24 The disciples went and woke him, saying, “Master, Master, we’re going to drown!”

He got up and rebuked the wind and the raging waters; the storm subsided, and all was calm.


Only living creatures can be "rebuked", here is what the dictionary says:


verb (used with object), rebuked, rebuking.
1.
to express sharp, stern disapproval of; reprove; reprimand.
noun
2.
sharp, stern disapproval; reproof; reprimand.


-MM

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posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 07:31 AM
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a reply to: MerkabaMeditation


Do Christians believe in Elemental Beings?

To answer the broader question, Christians are taught to believe angels and devils exist, but that any spiritual manifestation is of the devil.

Miracles have ceased, this is post Jesus, only the devil appears nowadays.

Jeez, what a mind meld…



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 07:42 AM
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a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Yes.

God can make children of Abraham from a rock. (Matthew 3:9) - Earth
Job caught the Leviathan (Job 41) - water
Satan is the Prince of the power of the air (Ephesians 2:2) - air
Satan, hell and Death all hang out in the lake of fire (Revelations 20:14) - fire

Jesus turns water into wine......thought I'd just add that one for personal envy and all-round awesomeness.




posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

So, perhaps the symbology of Jesus walking on water, resisting satan (air), casting fire in Luke 12:49, and taming the storm (air) in Luke 8:23-24 where all deliberately written in the Bible to tell the Initiated that he has power over the elemental supernatual beings?

-MM

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posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 07:59 AM
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a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

All 4 elements could be construed as being mentioned in Genesis 2:6-7 for the creation of the ADAM......

Streams came up from the Earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living soul.


WATER: Streams came up from the Earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. (Genesis 2:6)
EARTH: Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground. (Genesis 2:7)
AIR: And breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. (Genesis 2:7)
FIRE: And the man became a living soul. (Genesis 2:7)



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Ask any Hereditary Irish Catholic that question.



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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They have to if they believe in the evil pagan Star of David


All 4 elementals are contained within the star along with a silhouette of a cuboid (hexagon) that is similar to the sacred cube worshiped in Saudi Arabia.



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
Jesus turns water into wine......thought I'd just add that one for personal envy and all-round awesomeness.





I can turn wine into water. Pretty close, anyway.



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Yes, but not like gnomes and salamanders.

Think of it like every force (as in scientific forces) is the determined will of spirits, and things like trees and gold, or any thing of a "kind" - any "kind of element", like "the human element" - has a spirit who is a god to those spirits of its kind.

e.g. People who seek to understand physics and chemical forces are basically seeking after the elements of the world, much like Jews did when observing celestial events and/or new moons and such, or like the gentiles did when praying to idols or practicing rituals after "strange gods".

e.g. All spirits belong to a god, or spirit who is above the spirits of its kind. Humans also belong to a spirit who is their god -- for us, it just so happens to be Jesus as the Last Adam / the Son of Man - he is our god, our Lord, and just so happens to also be God, the body of God, the Word of God, God's body, the image of God.

Maybe an easy way to understand is to think of it like how colors are within the one color spectrum, just like all spirits are within their respective one spectrum or one god, and each of those gods, or spectra, are within the one true God.



Galatians 4:3
So it is with us — when we were “children” we were slaves to the elemental spirits of the universe;

Galatians 4:9
But now you do know God, and, more than that, you are known by God. So how is it that you turn back again to those weak and miserable elemental spirits? Do you want to enslave yourselves to them once more?

Colossians 2:8
Watch out, so that no one will take you captive by means of philosophy and empty deceit, following human tradition which accords with the elemental spirits of the world but does not accord with the Messiah.

Colossians 2:20
If, along with the Messiah, you died to the elemental spirits of the world, then why, as if you still belonged to the world, are you letting yourselves be bothered by its rules? —

source

See also: Commentary on Galatians 4:3




Daniel 5:23
But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified:



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 11:03 AM
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Good call. Never thought of it like that.

Also interesting to note that Jesus ascended to heaven in a cloud (air and or water?) and Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind (air).



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: Bleeeeep
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Yes, but not like gnomes and salamanders.

Think of it like every force (as in scientific forces) is the determined will of spirits, and things like trees and gold, or any thing of a "kind" - any "kind of element", like "the human element" - has a spirit who is a god to those spirits of its kind.

e.g. People who seek to understand physics and chemical forces are basically seeking after the elements of the world, much like Jews did when observing celestial events and/or new moons and such, or like the gentiles did when praying to idols or practicing rituals after "strange gods".

e.g. All spirits belong to a god, or spirit who is above the spirits of its kind. Humans also belong to a spirit who is their god -- for us, it just so happens to be Jesus as the Last Adam / the Son of Man - he is our god, our Lord, and just so happens to also be God, the body of God, the Word of God, God's body, the image of God.

Maybe an easy way to understand is to think of it like how colors are within the one color spectrum, just like all spirits are within their respective one spectrum or one god, and each of those gods, or spectra, are within the one true God.



Galatians 4:3
So it is with us — when we were “children” we were slaves to the elemental spirits of the universe;

Galatians 4:9
But now you do know God, and, more than that, you are known by God. So how is it that you turn back again to those weak and miserable elemental spirits? Do you want to enslave yourselves to them once more?

Colossians 2:8
Watch out, so that no one will take you captive by means of philosophy and empty deceit, following human tradition which accords with the elemental spirits of the world but does not accord with the Messiah.

Colossians 2:20
If, along with the Messiah, you died to the elemental spirits of the world, then why, as if you still belonged to the world, are you letting yourselves be bothered by its rules? —

source

See also: Commentary on Galatians 4:3




Daniel 5:23
But hast lifted up thyself against the Lord of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified:


Great response. Only if we subjugate ourself to them, do they become a hindrance. Rather, we have the power over them, as demonstrated by walking on water, rebuking the winds, and moving mountains [such as the stone over the tomb]
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posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 11:32 AM
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originally posted by: cooperton
Good call. Never thought of it like that.

Also interesting to note that Jesus ascended to heaven in a cloud (air and or water?) and Elijah was taken up in a whirlwind (air).


And, Yahweh hung out in a pillar of fire.

According to the Book of Jubilees, God created all the "elemental spirits" on the 1st day of creation.


Jubilees 2
For on the first day He created the heavens which are above and the earth and the waters and all the spirits which serve before him -the angels of the presence, and the angels of sanctification, and the angels [of the spirit of fire and the angels] of the spirit of the winds, and the angels of the spirit of the clouds, and of darkness, and of snow and of hail and of hoar frost, and the angels of the voices and of the thunder and of the lightning, and the angels of the spirits of cold and of heat, and of winter and of spring and of autumn and of summer and of all the spirits of his creatures which are in the heavens and on the earth

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posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 12:36 PM
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Are you asking if specific Christian denominations teach of elemental beings; specific denominations allow for them; or if an individual Christian may believe in them? Because Christianity has more than 30,000 different denominations globally & individual Christians are still humans with everyday thoughts & beliefs.

As en example, there are Christians who believe in Bigfoot, even though Bigfoot has nothing to do with Christianity. However, Bigfoot can fit into Christian interpretations of things if someone tried to justify it.

And as an added bonus, the Qur'an teaches that God made Adam from dirt/soil. And the Qur'an says that the Jinn are beings made from smokeless flames. And Islamic traditions say the Angels are beings made of light, though I'm pretty sure that's not in the Qur'an. So from your perspective in the OP, Muslims would believe in fire beings, soil beings, and possibly light beings.



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 12:41 PM
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"In the beginning was Adamu and Lilith, created from the same dirt" (read: EQUAL) Mr. Yang then chimed in "How can the men be bosses if We are equal?' Out goes Lilith and in comes "Eve" but She needs a rib from Adam (read: subservient)

Wait until You find out "He" is a "She"...

If it weren't for Our Mothers none of Us would be here not even the Nun...

Call Your Mom.

namaste



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 02:40 PM
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originally posted by: Bleeeeep
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

Yes, but not like gnomes and salamanders.

Think of it like every force (as in scientific forces) is the determined will of spirits, and things like trees and gold, or any thing of a "kind" - any "kind of element", like "the human element" - has a spirit who is a god to those spirits of its kind.

e.g. People who seek to understand physics and chemical forces are basically seeking after the elements of the world, much like Jews did when observing celestial events and/or new moons and such, or like the gentiles did when praying to idols or practicing rituals after "strange gods".

e.g. All spirits belong to a god, or spirit who is above the spirits of its kind. Humans also belong to a spirit who is their god -- for us, it just so happens to be Jesus as the Last Adam / the Son of Man - he is our god, our Lord, and just so happens to also be God, the body of God, the Word of God, God's body, the image of God.

Maybe an easy way to understand is to think of it like how colors are within the one color spectrum, just like all spirits are within their respective one spectrum or one god, and each of those gods, or spectra, are within the one true God.



hello,
well put, but from what i understood, some of them actually looks like dwarfs, elves, faeries.. thats why people were able to see theese beings in "old times" so they got their place in rumors and tales.. even children seems to be able to spot them sometimes. But as people grew more materialistic they lost ability to see them.

This lady, Margot Ruis is able to comunicate with them and wrote few books about them and their messages, now there is a movie too www.naturebeings-themovie.com... . From what she said, there was one particular thing i remembered, that is how growing mobile phone signal coverage is increasingly upsetting these beings, mainly of the air element, making the air burning them.

and Jesus is not Son of Man. He is son of God thus Son of Man needs to be an another person.



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: ClevererRunbeening

thats why people were able to see theese beings in "old times" so they got their place in rumors and tales.. even children seems to be able to spot them sometimes. But as people grew more materialistic they lost ability to see them.


I bet there was a ton of magic in the world that the masses are currently blind to.



This lady, Margot Ruis is able to comunicate with them and wrote few books about them and their messages, now there is a movie too www.naturebeings-themovie.com... . From what she said, there was one particular thing i remembered, that is how growing mobile phone signal coverage is increasingly upsetting these beings, mainly of the air element, making the air burning them.


Mobile phones... check this out: www.abovetopsecret.com...



and Jesus is not Son of Man. He is son of God thus Son of Man needs to be an another person.


Bar Enash, or Son of Man, translates to the New Sovereignty, Adam Renewed... spiritual liberation. This is why the Son of Man has no place to lay his head, it is a spiritual offspring; being "born again" of Spirit, and not flesh. The truth will set you free, etc.



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: cooperton
I bet there was a ton of magic in the world that the masses are currently blind to.


Magic is still here ..as is the blidness




Mobile phones... check this out: www.abovetopsecret.com...


As it may sound bit far fetched to me, there surely is something disturbing about the way people sticks to their mobiles.
Concerning mark of the beast, this looks most alarming to me www.abovetopsecret.com...
didnt know they got so far, and showing it off like this..



Bar Enash, or Son of Man, translates to the New Sovereignty, Adam Renewed... spiritual liberation. This is why the Son of Man has no place to lay his head, it is a spiritual offspring; being "born again" of Spirit, and not flesh. The truth will set you free, etc.
Do you see that free-seting-truth coming? Spiritual liberation meaning todays lack of morale and boundaries, or its not here yet?

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posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: ClevererRunbeening

Magic is still here ..as is the blidness





Absolutely


Do you see that free-seting-truth coming? Spiritual liberation meaning todays lack of morale and boundaries, or its not here yet?


Let's just say the chrysalis is starting to break open...



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: cooperton

originally posted by: ClevererRunbeening

Magic is still here ..as is the blidness





Absolutely


Do you see that free-seting-truth coming? Spiritual liberation meaning todays lack of morale and boundaries, or its not here yet?


Let's just say the chrysalis is starting to break open...


time will tell whats coming out of it..



posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: Bedlam

Sorry but water is not yellow. :p



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