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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Any lifestyle accepted by humans can be used to help or harm others. There's nothing medieval about that, that's simply human nature.
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Reallyfolks
Cue me on on the right questions then ... LOL. Or, don't bother, I'm good.
Of course religious freedom is not the point of the rally ... the point of the rally is to intimidate American Muslims.
Why else would a group bring weapons and stand outside their place of worship?
You mean the weapons you still can't prove were at these rallies? Or the ones that were at another rally 5 months earlier? Please define so we know which rally you are talking about.
If this one, then please prove weapons were there. If the other one, then please start another thread as that would be off topic.....we are talking about a rally that happened in October, a fact you seem to consistently overlook and try to derail with posts about a previous rally and the pics from that one.
originally posted by: ReprobateRaccoon
a reply to: Southern Guardian
Agreed. When you gather a bunch of hostile, screaming and armed men outside a place of worship with women and children, it's clear that the motive is to intimidate those inside from exercising their rights guaranteed under the First Amendment.
If your motive is to intimidate and scare families who have done nothing except exercise their constitutional rights, isn't that, in itself, terrorism?
Your logic is flawed. If these men were as 'hostile" as you claimed they are, then why aren't their a bunch of dead Muslims in Phoenix?
hostile behaviour; unfriendliness or opposition.
"their hostility to all outsiders"
synonyms: antagonism, unfriendliness, bitterness, malevolence, malice, unkindness,
originally posted by: Gryphon66
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Reallyfolks
Cue me on on the right questions then ... LOL. Or, don't bother, I'm good.
Of course religious freedom is not the point of the rally ... the point of the rally is to intimidate American Muslims.
Why else would a group bring weapons and stand outside their place of worship?
You mean the weapons you still can't prove were at these rallies? Or the ones that were at another rally 5 months earlier? Please define so we know which rally you are talking about.
If this one, then please prove weapons were there. If the other one, then please start another thread as that would be off topic.....we are talking about a rally that happened in October, a fact you seem to consistently overlook and try to derail with posts about a previous rally and the pics from that one.
The truly sad part is ... you knew you were being dishonest when you wrote this crap.
Every time.
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: chuck258
Your logic is flawed. If these men were as 'hostile" as you claimed they are, then why aren't their a bunch of dead Muslims in Phoenix?
I think your logic is flawed. If you had a bunch of guys walking up to you with assault rifles telling you they don't like what you believe in and they don't want you here, you don't define that as hostile? So is hostility only when somebody is actually shot and killed?
How do we define hostility?
hostile behaviour; unfriendliness or opposition.
"their hostility to all outsiders"
synonyms: antagonism, unfriendliness, bitterness, malevolence, malice, unkindness,
Do you actually have to kill somebody to be hostile? No.
It's pretty evident to the average person these vocal protesters, some with guns in hands, were being hostile. If this was a church, there'd be no doubt it'd be hostile to everybody on ATS.
originally posted by: Southern Guardian
a reply to: Gryphon66
You can only go so far with mental gymnastics.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Nope ... right back at you.
You desperately tried to obscure WHAT YOU HAVE ADMITTED YOU KNEW ALL ALONG throughout the whole thread.
You knew there were weapons at the October "protest" in AZ.
You knew there were weapons at the May "protests."
You knew (or at least, I informed you in the thread with evidence) that the October "protest" organizers had requested that attendees bring their weapons as they had in May.
OP was not disingenuous in the least. It is more than clear who was attempting to obscure the truth: Vasa Croe.
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: Vasa Croe
Reaching and arguing about what?
Your posts are blatant foolishness or obvious lies; that's the only thing you've "proven" in this thread.
Again: You've stated that you knew there were guns at the October "protest."
The organizers of the events asked the same folks who came to the same styled protests in May to bring their guns again in October.
There were and are photographs presented of guns at both events.
And as it is so obvious that your posts make you look like either a fool or a liar ... I would bet that no one is interested in making further posts here because the truth was and is crystal clear, and really, who wants to listen to lies (and/or foolishness) over and over again?
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Any lifestyle accepted by humans can be used to help or harm others. There's nothing medieval about that, that's simply human nature.
Just want to say I appreciate your input.
As an Atheist (raised Christian) I understand misconception by ignorance.