Russian point of view.

a reply to: whatsecret

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Russia getting risky, targeting Turkish fighters in apparent warning
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a reply to: Chrysalis

I must admit that the answer was entertaining, but I don't accept such kind of trolling from official Kremlin spokesperson.

a reply to: kitzik

You think it's trolling ?
Yesterday, one of the most influential newspapers in my country published a paper criticising
russian strikes on al nosra front, while saying in the same sentence that they are the al qaeda branch in Syria.

is that trolling too ?

a reply to: whatsecret

I think the main stream media should show this video. I can relate to what Putin is saying. You have to wonder if our government leaders are taking us for a ride.

a reply to: Chrysalis

is that trolling too ?

No. In this case they uttered the truth, even though the history of Al Qaida painting this whole criticism as hypocrisy.

It is not fun to hear Russian style trolling as a system. You know that it is bull#, but it somewhat funny bull# and people let it go.
This is characteristic of modern Russian power structure.

The Russian point of view is a good point of view.

originally posted by: MrSpad
Russia is simply protecting an arms market. It is helping carve out a small defensible piece of Syria that has a loyal ethnic minority. This is has been the Russia method in other places. It is bombing the other rebels and avoiding ISIS so that ISIS can take almost total control of the rest of Syria forcing the West to focus on ISIS and defending Israel, Jordan and Turkey. It creates a much longer conflict that West has to be a part of. It also keeps ISIS largest group of volunteers from heading back to Russia. As Russia was happy to let them go fight the Assad, the West and anybody else as long as they are not Russia's problem.

It is so odd to see people here think supporting Assad is a good idea when the Russian people do not. That people here think Russia has been doing good things for the last couple of years when all of Russia most dependable allies in the former Soviet states are angry, upset and afraid of Russia. When what once once were you closest friends not longer want anything to do with you, you have to know you are doing it wrong.

Ir is interesting that people who know the Russians the best and have lived on their borders are the ones who see Russia as reckless and aggressive. While a small group of people living safely far away think the Russia's are all flowers and candy. Forgetting that all the war are fought with Russian weapons on all sides and supplied with Russian ammo as is every conflict currently being fought in the world.

Please show where the Russian People don't want The Rus Gov to support Pres. Assad????

originally posted by: MrSpad
Russia is simply protecting an arms market. It is helping carve out a small defensible piece of Syria that has a loyal ethnic minority. This is has been the Russia method in other places. It is bombing the other rebels and avoiding ISIS so that ISIS can take almost total control of the rest of Syria forcing the West to focus on ISIS and defending Israel, Jordan and Turkey. It creates a much longer conflict that West has to be a part of. It also keeps ISIS largest group of volunteers from heading back to Russia. As Russia was happy to let them go fight the Assad, the West and anybody else as long as they are not Russia's problem.

It is so odd to see people here think supporting Assad is a good idea when the Russian people do not. That people here think Russia has been doing good things for the last couple of years when all of Russia most dependable allies in the former Soviet states are angry, upset and afraid of Russia. When what once once were you closest friends not longer want anything to do with you, you have to know you are doing it wrong.

Ir is interesting that people who know the Russians the best and have lived on their borders are the ones who see Russia as reckless and aggressive. While a small group of people living safely far away think the Russia's are all flowers and candy. Forgetting that all the war are fought with Russian weapons on all sides and supplied with Russian ammo as is every conflict currently being fought in the world.

Have you lost all common sense?

soulwaxer

a reply to: soulwaxer

a reply to: whatsecret

Uncle Vlad makes some good points . Forgot one of his bases but overall i was impressed with what he had to say .

O what the hell the USA has gone certifiably insane and ISIS was merely one asset being put in place for ww3 scheduled for 2016,study the full spectrum dominance policy they now believe that not only do they have a divine right to run the earth they also have total domination of all war theatres air,land,sea,space...Putin is Pre-empting ww3

Anytime two extremely powerful nations have the chance to combine forces agains a common enemy, the opportunity should be taken. Having said that, who is the common enemy? All sides agree the killing must stop, but who becomes the hegemon when there is a power vacuum? Assad? "Rebels"? Or will IS slink away and return with vengeance?

Mr. Spad finally called a spade a spade IMHO.

This is not about a "Russian point of view" - it is about a Putinist point of view. Putin tells his folks what they want to hear on state TV, and abroad he is riding the wave of the craziest of conspiracy theories.

ISIS is CIA?
Come on... Sounds like the green lizards and the Rothschilds founded the Soviet Union.
I grew up in a Soviet-controlled state and the worst part of it was that truth could be bent any way around anything if it suited the power brokers. The same happens many times in the Western world but at least there is a general expectation that the rational part of the world should sometimes match the non-rational part.
In plainer words: lying was the very nature of the Soviet machinery.

I am not sure the US is doing all it can and probably it has made huge blunders in foreign policy recently but it looks like that is all Putin does. No saving grace. He will drag modern Russia to destruction not world power status. And since Russian people have been severely traumatized after the breakup of the Soviet Union, they are willing to listen to this TV-paranoia.

The real Russian point of view would be to get rid of these mafiosi, weapons smugglers, stop supporting Assads in exchange of warm seaports (Tartus) and to build a working economy and remain allied with the democratic part of the West instead of paranoid imperial ambitions. We don't need a warm Russian seaport, we need Russian democrats.