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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 06:25 PM
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Sorry if it has been posted already. Nothing came up in a search.

Well, here's the Russian perspective regarding the Middle East, the U.S. and why Russia must intervene in Syria.

Cold War? Nah....

basically ISIS is CIA and if Assad is taken out, Russian would have to fight it on their land.




And meanwhile this is what we're doing...





mobile.reuters.com...

"News of the advance came as the United States announced it was largely abandoning its failed program to train moderate rebels fighting Islamic State and would instead provide arms and equipment directly to rebel leaders and their units on the battlefield"


And here Putin is asked by BBC why he is so aggressive. By the look on that journalist's face, you can see that he regrets asking that question.


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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: whatsecret

Oopsies with Youtube I see.
Try editing ytube and /ytube to yvid and /yvid.
That should fix your imbeds.

On topic: Craziness in the ME as usual.
All this Russia/Turkey aggression has many very worried, especially those of heavy faith in Islam and Christianity who've heard of the Gog and Magog War. Especially after the oil discovered by Israel, (by an American company, go figure), things could get very ugly very fast.
DoomPorn



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 06:56 PM
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originally posted by: ADAMandEVIL
a reply to: whatsecret

Oopsies with Youtube I see.
Try editing ytube and /ytube to yvid and /yvid.
That should fix your imbeds.

On topic: Craziness in the ME as usual.
All this Russia/Turkey aggression has many very worried, especially those of heavy faith in Islam and Christianity who've heard of the Gog and Magog War. Especially after the oil discovered by Israel, (by an American company, go figure), things could get very ugly very fast.
DoomPorn



Thank you very much. It has been a while since I posted. Forgot how to do it. Still can't do the url. When I click the button my phone crashes, and I don't remember how to write it out so there's a title for the link. Help? Please.
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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 07:24 PM
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Stephen Cohen's audio podcast interview is up and worth listening to . He seems to have one of the better grips on all of the actions and actors in this part of history .. "Nation contributing editor Stephen F. Cohen and John Batchelor continue their weekly discussions of the new US-Russian Cold War. Cohen points out that since Presidents Obama and Putin staged a public debate at the UN on September 28, there have been significant developments on all three fronts.

Due to the refugee crisis and festering Ukrainian conflict, European leaders are now drifting away from Washington and toward the positions taken by Putin. On October 2, French President Hollande and German Chancellor Merkel again demanded that Ukrainian President Poroshenko implement the Minsk peace accords.

Again, he agreed, but again, Cohen argues, Poroshenko will not because of ultra-nationalist anti-Minsk forces in Kiev. It’s also clear that Europe supports Putin’s military actions in Syria, no matter what some of their officials say publicly.

The real decision, Cohen emphasizes, is now with the Obama administration. Will it seize Putin’s proposal to form an anti-ISIS coalition, which if successful could curtail or even end the new Cold War? Or will it make Syria another proxy war against Russia, as it has done in Ukraine? " russia-insider.com...



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 07:46 PM
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a reply to: the2ofusr1

They are sitting there pretending to be disappointed that they are fighting Isis with 4 or 5 "good" rebels.
It's a joke. Where is the half billion dollars they were given to train "good" terrorists?

Putin is exposing them. And I don't see a good ending here. How can anybody take our war with Isis seriously


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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 07:49 PM
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Yet again I hear Putin talk and he makes far too much sense to be an evil Soviet dictator.

Gotta love how he owns that question and turns it back around on the USA.

I agree Mr Putin, the USA double crossed you and you have every right to stand your ground on national interests.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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Russians say, let's cooperate and respect each other's national interests.

U.S., shoot down Russian planes.... It's like twilight zone.




posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
Yet again I hear Putin talk and he makes far too much sense to be an evil Soviet dictator.

Gotta love how he owns that question and turns it back around on the USA.

I agree Mr Putin, the USA double crossed you and you have every right to stand your ground on national interests.


Well considering Russia was planning to do it but th e US beat him to th e punch hes butt hurt.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 08:07 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: markosity1973
Yet again I hear Putin talk and he makes far too much sense to be an evil Soviet dictator.

Gotta love how he owns that question and turns it back around on the USA.

I agree Mr Putin, the USA double crossed you and you have every right to stand your ground on national interests.


Well considering Russia was planning to do it but th e US beat him to th e punch hes butt hurt.


Where did you get this information?



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 09:00 PM
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a reply to: whatsecret

There are really no good choices
Do you want to live in
autocratic, mafia linked Russia ?
corporatist NWO USA ?
ISIS Caliphate ?

Or may be to become a Han Chinese ? lol



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 09:27 PM
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So who is the aggressor? Definitely not Russia, there is too much truth in what Putin says.

1. Who's got more military bases scattered the world over?
2. Who's started / instigated more wars in world?

And yet gullible fools who can't think for themselves, rely on their propaganda to believe that Russia is the aggressor.

Got love how Putin owned the question about Russian Aggression.

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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 09:31 PM
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a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Putin was right that Russia have far less military bases than USA
But he lied you in the face not mentioning Latakia base in Syria and you swallowed it.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: kitzik

Okay there is one he missed. But does thar even matter? With that response it is clear your missing the point. The US has according to a US senator 900 bases abroad.

That's correct 900



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 10:07 PM
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Here's an interesting bit :
www.legrandsoir.inf... o/le-porte-parole-du-kremlin-se-fout-de-la-gueule-d-un-journaliste-et-c-est-drole-29431.html

And here's my translation :

"Kremlin's spokesperson laughs his ass off at journalist, and it's fun.

During your bombings in Syria, how do you differentiate normal terrorists from moderate rebels ?

"We took that into consideration from the beginning of our military operations in Syria.
Against normal terrorists, we use normal bombs, and against moderate terrorists, we use only moderate bombs.
That's the approach we took, an approach of justice / fairness."

Excuse me, but can you tell me the difference between normal bombs and moderate bombs ?

"Our normal bombs differentiate themselves from moderate bombs,
exactly the same way normal terrorists differentiate themselves from moderate terrorists.
The latter ones are in fact painted with other colors, with more soft and pleasing tones"




posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 10:08 PM
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originally posted by: kitzik
a reply to: InnerPeace2012

Putin was right that Russia have far less military bases than USA
But he lied you in the face not mentioning Latakia base in Syria and you swallowed it.


I realized that he missed the Latakia base, but that doesn't change the fact that US got more bases globally than any other country.

I am fairly certain you are the one that's been lied to by Western media, check your facts and let's have a real discussion on the topic.

Peace
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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 10:11 PM
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a reply to: liteonit6969

Yes. It does matter. He said "there are just two bases", this interview was given before recent Russian activity in Syria.
"Forgetting" this base is inexcusable. (Btw. there are more bases that he forgot) Today he would probably mention the base in Latakia as well, but when it suits him he can "forget"



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: InnerPeace2012

If you would check my posting history You would know me as pro Russian mostly



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: InnerPeace2012

If you would check my posting history You would know me as pro Russian mostly


Sorry double post.
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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 10:15 PM
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Russia is simply protecting an arms market. It is helping carve out a small defensible piece of Syria that has a loyal ethnic minority. This is has been the Russia method in other places. It is bombing the other rebels and avoiding ISIS so that ISIS can take almost total control of the rest of Syria forcing the West to focus on ISIS and defending Israel, Jordan and Turkey. It creates a much longer conflict that West has to be a part of. It also keeps ISIS largest group of volunteers from heading back to Russia. As Russia was happy to let them go fight the Assad, the West and anybody else as long as they are not Russia's problem.

It is so odd to see people here think supporting Assad is a good idea when the Russian people do not. That people here think Russia has been doing good things for the last couple of years when all of Russia most dependable allies in the former Soviet states are angry, upset and afraid of Russia. When what once once were you closest friends not longer want anything to do with you, you have to know you are doing it wrong.

Ir is interesting that people who know the Russians the best and have lived on their borders are the ones who see Russia as reckless and aggressive. While a small group of people living safely far away think the Russia's are all flowers and candy. Forgetting that all the war are fought with Russian weapons on all sides and supplied with Russian ammo as is every conflict currently being fought in the world.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 10:17 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

Appreciate you opinions thus far, but it's just that, opinions, when you don't back them up with facts.

Entertaining none the less.

Peace



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