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Syrian Crisis: The Game of Terrorists

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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 01:30 AM
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Hi folks,

I know it is a rather complicated war we have in Syria right now, but it doesn't seem to amaze me, when I came across posts which try to distinguish the difference between the groups of insurgents running rampant in Syria.

The point of this thread is to highlight the hypocrisy of playing the "Game of Terrorist" as others have labelled. The bottom, line in this conflict is that the Syrian people are affected and Western support for rebels on the ground who are basically a part of the problem, should not be seen or mistook as a solution for the Syria people. Why? because it not a solution since we know nothing good has come out of the million dollar game of terrorists in Syria.

The fact still remains that Bashar Al Assad's government is the legitimate government, and has been voted in by the people of Syria as their president in a legitimate election process.

Now, there is really no business for a foreign nation, whether an Eagle or a Bear, or perhaps a Turkey to mingle with Syrian Affairs, by funding and arming rebel groups with the intention to over throw the current Syrian government. And in doing so, the power vacuum created has seen the raise of the Islamic State terrorist group. More so, displacing millions now from their home lands.

We know that Russia is currently assisting the Syrian government to stabilize the area and regain government control of parts of Syria withheld by insurgent groups. All the more the US and it's Western Allies, are basically more interested in overthrowing the Assad government and so cannot come to a comprise with Russia to resolve the conflict, but believes Assad is a dictator, just like his comrades Sadam and Gaddafi who have gone down under the Western whip.

So what difference does it make what insurgent groups there is operating in Syria, when their actions are just causing instability in the area and displacing and killing the Syrian people.

The mounting crisis has therefore attracted Russia to step in the mess of instability from a plea from it's long time ally, Syria. But one can argue, if whether Russia is adding to the instability or are they just there to provide stability and much needed air support for the Syrian Army advancement.

So a distinguish between the insurgence groups is beyond me, since I believe in sorting out this mess as it is and than come to a political resolution for the Syrian people.

If there's any difference between this terror groups, than I guess you choose which best fits your agenda. I don't see any difference, they are all just terrorist in this game of terrorists and should feel the full force of their own medicine.

Tell the difference in the picture below





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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 01:46 AM
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A terrorist is a terrorist, just like a rapist is a rapist, a thief is a thief, and a murderer is a murderer.

They are terrorists if they arent for the government and they are running around with guns shouting allah u akbar blowing people up with car bombs.

They need to be resisted by all and any means. Russia is doing a good thing fighting against the terrorists, more countries should join in.


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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 06:08 AM
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I keep wondering how come westerns whom have interest in Syria could not do anything else in the beginning of the conflict than join in with what they want to call rebels and provide em with means to destroy the country.. It also do not make much sense at all that tens of thousands? of Syrian citizen of 20+ million of ppl in the country, would keep their own country as hostages and make it weaker for years, inviting all kinda of mercs inside the country around the world.. It also opened gates for this very suspicious faction they keep calling ISISL/Daesh etc.

Somehow it is quite obvious what is steam rolling in ME, it seem to be the very same tactics that is used in Syria, shaping the leadership of the regime, its like when they got their ways, they made "trading deals" for those areas rich resources etc, so those areas will be secured and managed "accordingly" but same time its says also that Frag that country and its ppl..



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 06:19 AM
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We remember the cry of Asaud must go repeated by talking heads and head of western Govt's. but only seen small groups within Syria who were protesting for change . If we look and listen within Canada we here a majority cry that Harper must go . The western talking heads and heads of Govt's. have done nothing to assist ,we the people .

Most know what the game is and was in the middle east .It's one of those known known's . Whey do our Govt's expect us to listen to and heed their words when our cry's fall on deaf ears ? What Russia is bringing about in Syria is a lesson for the world to watch and learn . It pays to be a terrorist .$$$ . It shows us that countries will pay to have peoples terrorised . Even their own .

It shows us that our largest army's and the people that lead them are neck deep in this game of terrorising . Bring them home and make them protect us not terrorise us and others. Mr Putin has shown a bright light on this ruse . Thank you Mr Putin and the Russia people .God bless you .



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 08:02 AM
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Deposing governments (Regime Change) cutting off the head, replacing it with one of our own.

No Fly Zones, a declared right to violate sovereign airspace of a foreign nation.

Humanitarian intervention and Humanitarian corridors, the beginning of ground invasion under air superiority in the established NoFly Zones.

Arming the worst thugs and criminals, setting them loose in the city, called Freedom fighters or, in the beginning in Syria, Free Syria Army.

Destruction of historical monuments, part of the overall replacement of Cultural Heritage, destroying history to replace it with new "Western Memes".

Whole sale murder to instill terror in a population whether from the air, 'terrorists', or government fighting the terrorists, designed to so disrupt the countries economy, infrastructure and sanctity, that people have little choice but to die, fight back, or flee.

This is called war.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 08:44 AM
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What can I say but "I concur" with all the above.
"If it looks like a terrorist, walks like a terrorist, talks like a terrorist and shoots like a terrorist, its a terrorist"
Go for it Russia, give em hell...



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 12:38 PM
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The problem here is that brutal governments breed brutal people.

Assad and his family have demonstrated that they are brutal. This whole thing kicked off when Assad started to shoot demonstrators, like that's acceptable. Assad's father presided over the Hama massacre where upwards of 50,000 were killed 1982.

On your little cartoon you miss the incumbent dictator. To some he has brutalised he's as bad as ISIS.

The West's solution is to support the moderates to remove Assad. ISIS is a by-product of the internecine brutality between Shias and Sunnis and has found a foothold in the mayhem. It has always been there in one form or another - manifest in the death and destruction after GW2 in Iraq (Muslims killed vastly more Muslims than the US did as they failed to stop each intolerant denomination apart). ISIS is just an extension of hundreds of years of religious intolerance and ignorance.

Russia's arrival on the scene is more about keeping their foothold in the Middle East than any good cause. After all, removal of Assad removes 100% of their ME allies.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 02:23 PM
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a reply to: paraphi

It would be no problem if Assad was removed except all these groups would proceed then to fight each other for the next 30 years and Syria would know no peace.

The alternative to Assad is years of more fighting and misery for the Syrian people

Look at Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 03:00 PM
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a reply to: paraphi




Assad and his family have demonstrated that they are brutal.

and that is the reason why was Assad elected by Syrian people!!

Hama massacre is a combination of historic facts mixed with Zionist Americanized propaganda. I know Assad has his peoples support.. If you keep this BS "Assad is bad guy" up, Syria will be worse off than Iraq or Palestine today.... I believe Assad is the only leader in the Middle East that has enough sense to see the entire picture of the Israeli US influence of terrorist rebels,infiltrating his country. he does have to fight back it does not make him wrong....He is protecting his countries' s people against all odds...Your entire post is wrong ...

Hammaa was filled with terrorists(Muslim brotherhood) and was cleansed, giving Syria its secularity and in-dependency back.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: paraphi

According to Robert fisk 20,000 where killed 1000 of them where Syrian government troops it's debatable who slaughtered the civilians just the fact your wildly exaggerating pushing an agenda means your ill informed or just spreading propaganda
Fact of the matter is Assad is the elected leader the terrorists are mainly mercenaries the free Syrian army is a joke that exists mainly in the media it is absolutely delusional to think that Syria would be better without a majority backed government end the violence then and only then could fair election s be held but it's none of the western worlds dam business who the Syrian people want as a leader power sharing is an option but not with head copping sex slave selling jihadists at the moment Christians can live unbothered under the current regime but no terrorists or "opposition" are tolerant to anything but Shari look at Libya for crying out loud the richest country in Africa look at it now



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 04:23 PM
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Well if outsiders has stayed out of Syria Assad would be dead by now. Assad had a modern army of 350,000 men. If he had not ordered that Army to slaughter his own unarmed people they would not have changed sides and made this into a real war. And when they did and Assad saw the beyond the Alawites his entire military was suspect he brought in Iran and Hezbollah while forcing heavy conscription upon the Alawites. Radical groups started coming in to take a shot at taking over the country. And now you had terrotists fighting terrotists. Assad seeing the tensions between the radical groups and the FSA/Kurds released the radicals in his prisons into the rebel areas hoping to create more problems between the rebels and the radicals. And it worked, open fighting broke out between the FSA/Kurds and the radicals. Of course then those radicals he released, many who had fought against the US in Iraq got back in contact with their old buddies in Iraq and ISIS became a two nation organization. Assads ceasefire with ISIS would lead to the joint beating of the FSA and Kurds to such a point they were no longer a threat and ISIS then reared and turned on Assad and all the other radical groups who refused to join them.

The coalition air campaign ended ISIS offensive against the Kurds and rebels and removed its oil supplies. Still Assads forces continued to flee or change sides leaving only Hezbollah, Iran and the Alawites to do the fighting.

Soon Assads area of control shrank to almost nothing. And the Alwite regions found themselves under attack with help coming to save them from Assad, the Alawites began to rebel against Assad. Now with only Syrians in Syria willing to fight for Assad getting ready to walk away leading to Assads complete collapse the Russians acted.

Except the Russian has no plans to take on ISIS or do anything but, secure the Alawite lands and their loyalty and create a pocket state for Assad to rule.

And that is where we are at. Assad is the one thing everybody is Syria agrees must go. So that will be only starting point for peace.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

Another one of your opinionated stories without anything to back it up. You also never respond to comments pointing out the nonsense. Hit and run tactics.

Anyways,




And that is where we are at. Assad is the one thing everybody is Syria agrees must go. So that will be only starting point for peace.



Brussels (AFP) - German Chancellor Angela Merkel said Thursday that President Bashar al-Assad should be involved in any Syrian peace talks, amid mounting pressure to end the four-year conflict


news.yahoo.com...

Even western leaders like Merkel are saying that Assad is needed to end this conflict.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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That's good stuff right there OP.

S&F



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

PLEASE, provide some evidence fo Your opinions!! if not, then all You write is just Your BS opinion like always!!



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

Everyone knows that Assad must go, everyone agrees on that, however as RogueWave pointed out, Merkel and most of the EU leaders also agree that Assad is the key person for peace talks for the future of Syria.

There is really no point in playing pointing fingers now, since we already have a major terrorist crisis in Syria. What the Syrian people need is a solution and Assad must be involved as part of the solution.

But that does not mean, the atrocities of any of this leaders must not go unnoticed by the International Criminal Court.

Each should pay for their crimes against humanity, not just Assad.




posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 05:35 PM
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a reply to: MrSpad

There is nothing at all in this post that is relevant is there?

You suggest that Assad is the only thing we can start on, where is this consensus on Assad having to go?

Does it exist outside your obvious mental gymnastics?

I doubt your opinion on this matter.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: InnerPeace2012

i do almost agree with You...
just please, can You to explain why are You saying this:
-Everyone knows that Assad must go (why? most of Syrian people elected him, right?)
-Each should pay for their crimes against humanity, not just Assad (why Assad? what exactly he did? against humanity)

thanks
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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 05:36 PM
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a reply to: InnerPeace2012

I disagree on the premise of Assad having to go.
Why? Why exactly does he have to go?



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 05:49 PM
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originally posted by: romilo
I keep wondering how come westerns whom have interest in Syria could not do anything else in the beginning of the conflict than join in with what they want to call rebels and provide em with means to destroy the country.. It also do not make much sense at all that tens of thousands? of Syrian citizen of 20+ million of ppl in the country, would keep their own country as hostages and make it weaker for years, inviting all kinda of mercs inside the country around the world.. It also opened gates for this very suspicious faction they keep calling ISISL/Daesh etc.

Somehow it is quite obvious what is steam rolling in ME, it seem to be the very same tactics that is used in Syria, shaping the leadership of the regime, its like when they got their ways, they made "trading deals" for those areas rich resources etc, so those areas will be secured and managed "accordingly" but same time its says also that Frag that country and its ppl..



It's not Daesh, don't say Daesh, never say Daesh. It's ISIS, ISIS, ISIS. It will be ISIS forever. They made their ficticious bed let them lie in it and let ISIS forever roam in search for Osiris $&!@* . You acknowledge Daesh than you are letting them get away with rewriting their blunder.

Ain't no f'n way a Muslim religious rebel group would name themselves after a Eygyptian mythology.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 05:51 PM
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originally posted by: Rosinitiate

originally posted by: romilo
I keep wondering how come westerns whom have interest in Syria could not do anything else in the beginning of the conflict than join in with what they want to call rebels and provide em with means to destroy the country.. It also do not make much sense at all that tens of thousands? of Syrian citizen of 20+ million of ppl in the country, would keep their own country as hostages and make it weaker for years, inviting all kinda of mercs inside the country around the world.. It also opened gates for this very suspicious faction they keep calling ISISL/Daesh etc.

Somehow it is quite obvious what is steam rolling in ME, it seem to be the very same tactics that is used in Syria, shaping the leadership of the regime, its like when they got their ways, they made "trading deals" for those areas rich resources etc, so those areas will be secured and managed "accordingly" but same time its says also that Frag that country and its ppl..



It's not Daesh, don't say Daesh, never say Daesh. It's ISIS, ISIS, ISIS. It will be ISIS forever. They made their ficticious bed let them lie in it and let ISIS forever roam in search for Osiris $&!@* . You acknowledge Daesh than you are letting them get away with rewriting their blunder.

Ain't no f'n way a Muslim religious rebel group would name themselves after a Eygyptian mythology.


That was a rant right?







 
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