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What is to stop the alCIAda from running islamic terrorists into China from Indonesia?

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posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 07:01 PM
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a reply to: John_Rodger_Cornman

I agree there is good and bad in all my research leans towards this whole war on terror thing being a psyop and the muslim radicals whilst they must be dealt with are merely the useful idiots in a far greater and far more insidious paradigm.




posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: BASSPLYR

Didn't know many forms of kung fu and wushu were muslim in origin.

Whoa.



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: paraphi

Wait, what exactly are you asking? Your words seem to contradict themselves.


Are these Muslim athletes and celebrities portraying American culture or Muslim? In fact, what is Muslim culture?

The post I replied to said there were Muslim elements in our culture & I agreed. If "Muslim elements" means "parts of Western culture that come from Islamic majority countries", then that would include things like Algebra, Arabic numerals, and major contributions to astronomy, physics, and maths. Here's a list of some fundamental things Western culture borrowed from Islamic cultures from back in the 11th century.

As far as the Muslim celebrities portraying Muslim or American culture, what does that mean? Muslims like Hakeem Olajuwon fasted while playing in the NBA Finals & literally does all of his business deals in cash (since interest is outlawed in the Qur'an). And Muhammad Ali's charities have fed more than 1 million people, (charity is a literal requirement in Islam). Do those types of things count? Also, we're supposed to Fast during Ramadan & pray daily while we're not supposed to get intoxicated, steal, gamble, kill, etc. So when the Muslim celebs adhere to those tenets and others, does it count for you?


The counties where Muslims are predominant have wide and varied cultures, they just so happen to follow one of several forms of Islam. The culture in Saudi Arabia is totally different from Tunisia.

I agree.


Yet all counties where Muslims predominate tend to treat women poorly and have shoddy human rights.

That's not true & it contradicts what you said above. Indonesia, Pakistan, and Bangladesh are the 3 most populous Muslim countries & they've each had Muslim women as Heads of State. In fact, here's a list of 7 Muslim majority countries that have had female Heads of State: Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Turkey, Senegal, Kosovo, and Kyrgyzstan. Those 7 Muslim countries make up almost 40% of all Muslims globally. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

As for human rights, what countries actually have good human rights records? How far back are you going on this?



posted on Oct, 12 2015 @ 07:57 PM
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All i know is that the establishment controlled TV is telling me there is a muslim terrorist around every door yet billions of muslims are just living their lives like normal people.

Yet the CIA is arming crazy cults in Syria,Iraq and Libya and using them to destabilize the middle east.

Right now they are rebranding the brainwash and making it out that there is a crazy SSRI gun owner waiting to behind every corner.
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posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Wait, what exactly are you asking? Your words seem to contradict themselves.


Nope, I am not contradicting myself.

So, what is Muslim culture? Show me a country today that is predominantly Muslim country with good women's rights, or an exemplar of civil liberties and social liberties. Having a female head of state is not an indication of this, as you know.
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posted on Oct, 13 2015 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: enlightenedservant
Wait, what exactly are you asking? Your words seem to contradict themselves.


Nope, I am not contradicting myself.

So, what is Muslim culture? Show me a country today that is predominantly Muslim country with good women's rights, or an exemplar of civil liberties and social liberties. Having a female head of state is not an indication of this, as you know.


Huh? Did you even read my post? I'm not repeating what I already typed.

Now were you talking about "elements that came from Muslim majority countries" or "Muslims celebs that lived based on Islamic principles"? You're moving the goalposts. I answered the original questions so you're changing the criteria.

Oh, Turkey, Algeria, & Indonesia. Though I also wonder what you mean by "women's rights". Most Arab countries follow "Arab Socialism", which guarantees women a lot of things America doesn't. Women get more paid leave from work, and can get large stipends & grants for having children. Those countries actually want the women to have kids & be able to take care of them.

But "women's rights" in America is something totally different. 1 in every 6 American women has been or will be raped. And 1/3 of all murdered women will be killed by a spouse. How is that pro-women's rights? Women don't even get paid the same as men.
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