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BREAKING : Vladimir Putin says Russia will fight for the right of Palestinians to their own state

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posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: OptimisticCynic

MOSSAD and Cia are the real problem in the origin for decades... they are still fighting to cover and push THE LIE forward




posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: OptimisticCynic

no. Israel is destabilizing the origin for some time... Israel is illegal state. like it or not. but those who created Israel, created it based on lie....


Israel is destabilizing the region? LoL tiny Israel thats small than the state of New Jersey, surrounded by Muslim countries, who have NOTORIOUSLY fought among themselves for 1000s of years

ISIS all over the place, Sunnis, Shias, Wahhabis , Salafis all fighting with each other since god knows when.

and Israel is destabilizing the region lol

Yeah ok



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: OptimisticCynic

MOSSAD and Cia are the real problem in the origin for decades... they are still fighting to cover and push THE LIE forward



So, what was the problem before MOSSAD and CIA came along, because this craps been happening for 1000s of years in this region

more anti-Israel rhetoric



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: maddy21

Sunday 29 March 2015

Breaking?
www.independent.co.uk... ml
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posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: stumason




I clearly told you why I disagreed and all you can do is stamp your feet.


and i clearly provided a source that says your wrong, from the actual mouth of Russia

So i really dont care what your opinion is, apparently its wrong




How about, instead of quoting obscure sources,


zero hedge isnt an obscure source

Carry on with your delusions for righteousness , this conversation is obviously over, seeing as how you cant even concede when the hard facts from the mouth of Russia is presented to you



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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This just confirms to me what I've been thinking over the last few weeks but it's the angle I've been waiting for years for. Russia are going to be the "Saviour" of the middle east.
I've always thought Russia were in the same game as the west after that overheard conversation between Obama and the Russian PM. This has been the gameplan all along and these recent weeks it's been obvious that this has been the setup.

I've been wondering since that conversation what role Russia were going to play and with their incursions into Ukraine and Crimea it didn't make sense what the end game was, until Syria. Since then the rhetoric from Putin has been a dream for those who oppose the imperialistic west.

So with this latest development, it is just a further escalation of that ideology and will help to galvanise support for Russia throughout the middle east.

Think about it, it's the perfect setup. The west go in and take out the dictators in the region, destabilising those countries in the process.(Problem) Leave the countries to go into civil war which then promotes a hatred to the west for putting them in that situation. (Reaction) Russia the supposed anti-imperialist and anti-west are thanked for coming in and stabilising the countries and are happy to live under a Russian appointed "President". (Solution)

Russia has a good track record in the region with the many Stans which are ex-russian colonies.



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: OptimisticCynic

sorry, but yes they do.... if any terrorist group in near future will use nukes... it will be nuke from Israhell. cos no one control them... same like 9/11.... then big s**** will happened and some of Your family may pass a way... based on lie xx



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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genealy spoken the common intelligense sevices are an state IN an state
the former Gestapo and Stasi were "pussies" compared with the operating services now ...
for example the USA has files of all US and europian people werent we learned that it was the most worst act of the Stasi?
a reply to: OptimisticCynic


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posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: OptimisticCynic

sorry, but yes they do.... if any terrorist group in near future will use nukes... it will be nuke from Israhell. cos no one control them... same like 9/11.... then big s**** will happened and some of Your family may pass a way... based on lie xx



LoL first of all no my family is fine, and you can take your 9/11 conspiracy to the other forum, it has no place here



Israel has had nukes, if they wanted to use them, they could have and would have.

If they wanted Palestine gone, they could wipe them off the map within a matter of hours

So tired of hearing this crap , from the anti Israel crowd

I agree that both sides have done horrible things, and that some sort of agreement needs to happen

But this rhetoric is just getting ridiculous

And you still didnt answer me about what the excuse was , when the region was on fire before Mossad and the CIA were even an entity

Ill hold my breath
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posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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Putin is slowly showing his hand and its better than anything the west can play. He has an agenda of course but now countriez have at least 3 options now...even if its the lesser of 3 evils. The world is tired of the 1 sided west only action. Well played mr. Putin, well played.



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: OptimisticCynic

calm down man... try to find out why is ISIS strong, where money and weapons come from... and why they are never close to ISRAEL(headquarters)



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:02 PM
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So, Putin the great chess-master is making his move(s) with the world as his chessboard......



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: OptimisticCynic

Both your sources are iffy. Pravda is just a shower of pro-Russian crap and Zerohedge spins everything to high heaven and clearly has a major bias- they describe the Ukraine Government as a Junta, so it's clearly a pro-Russian blog (it's not news - it's a small group of anonymous editors typing rubbish)

As for what the "Russian" said, he is calling a broad "anti-dollar" alliance to counter the Western domination of the financial markets. He doesn't mention about collapsing it, China would not agree to anything of the sort.

If you feel so hurt by me calling you out, may I suggest you not read such highly dubious sources for something as complicated as international economics. If you feel the conversation is over, that's up to you, but it doesn't make you right. In fact, it smacks of Eric Cartmen and "Screw you guys, I'm going home" because I don't agree with you.



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: OptimisticCynic

calm down man... try to find out why is ISIS strong, where money and weapons come from... and why they are never close to ISRAEL(headquarters)


LoL another lie

ISIS money is coming from the Muslim Brotherhood,Saudi Arabia and many others sympathetic to their cause , including the oil wells they have acquired through their actions.

Their equpment indeed mostly came from the US because of the idiotic choices the US made.

The delusions involved with people who think everything is Israels fault, seriously needs to have some sort of diagnosis lol



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:06 PM
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You are loaded by to much propaganda man... i am having friends in Israel. i use to live there 3 years... i think i know a bit much more then Your sources



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:08 PM
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f you feel so hurt by me calling you out, may I suggest you not read such highly dubious sources



Yeah uhh, im not hurt by anything, my sources were sound

LoL did you just say Pravda is a pro russian source , so it cant be accurate? lol Wait so if a pro russian source is saying that they are intentionally trying to crash US dollar, then they are obviously lying?

Not to mention you JUST contradicted yourself, you just said not 2 posts ago that ZeroHedge wasnt iffy, now youre back tracking

No really im not hurt at all, I proved my point with valid sources, your hubris is the problem , not my sources

Go have a "spot of tea" relax



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:08 PM
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mr Putin could be an good next US president !a reply to: clearmind



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:10 PM
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a reply to: maddy21

Link is 404'd



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: ZakOlongapo
a reply to: OptimisticCynic

You are loaded by to much propaganda man... i am having friends in Israel. i use to live there 3 years... i think i know a bit much more then Your sources


This coming from the guy who claims that Israel did 9/11 and is funding ISIS

I find that laughable

And again you make assumptions, I lived in Israel for 6 yrs in Ra'anana , so once again you are wrong



posted on Oct, 11 2015 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: OptimisticCynic

Let's just have a look at this "BRIC's" hardon you have...

First of all, the NDB - ndbbrics.org...

It's entirely financed in US Dollars. Also it has been welcomed by major financiers such as Jim Rogers (An economist who worked for a Fund managed by Soros - so bang goes your "all economists" idea) as a good thing, to complement the US backed institutions like the IMF and World Bank, not as a threat.

Now, BRIC's itself isn't even really a thing. It's a loose collection of the worlds second rung economies + China (who arguably, besides being the worlds largest economy, still have a long way to go to truly develop their economy). India, South Africa and Brazil have absolutely no interest in collapsing the dollar and enjoy healthy trade with the US, as does China.

Just because one of Putin's mates has a wet dream about doing it, doesn't make it so. Russia isn't in charge of the NDB or "BRICs", in fact it is China who calls the shots.



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