Not my title, and I know what you're thinking. This is another religion bashing thread. Not quite. Religion may have had a hand in squelching
scientific discovery in the past, and there is still resistance from more extremist sects today. This is about governments and special interests, more
than anything to do with religion. There seems to be, either a lack of interest, or an outright campaign by governments to slash spending on science
related research and projects. Or both. This is a Canadian produced video, and it makes one wonder what the hell is going on. Is there a conspiracy
afoot? Or is the author blowing the issue out of proportion? Especially considering what we've learned about planets in our solar system lately. Or is
that just bread and circuses to keep the masses distracted?
The history, accomplishments and importance of science.
Science and society at odds.
The rejection of modern scientific evidence.
A quote by Carl Sagan... "We live in a society exquisitely dependent on science and technology, in which hardly anyone knows anything about science and technology."
The contrast of Greece and Rome in relation to science.
The UK spends less than 0.5% of its GDP on public research.
The U.S. government has cut $300,000,000 from NASA's budget in 2015.
The bank bailout cost more money than NASA's 50 year budget.
1 month of military spending equals an entire year of NASA spending.
Stephen Harper gets hit hard in this video.
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Could it be like the end of the Roman Empire the US Empire is ending and so to maintain tptb's status quo they are cutting what they previously
invested in ? Seems that all walks of society has taken a hit . This lecture by Lawerence Wilkerson give a chilling image of past collapses of Empire
. And this is a link to a thread on how some of the millions might be directed not to the science but to groups in
position to help some of the fiction even in some sciences . climateaudit.org... There are some legitimate people
doing legitimate work in science but some of it is only a kind of carrot of wishful thinking imo A lot of what if's and maybe's and a little bit of
fear thrown in with if not's .
If you had a Choice, without repercussions, you would act as a monkey. Kill, steal, murder, pillage. It's part of nature being a primate. NASA is the
future, or the future of humanity will get doomed, without any mercy. The children of tomorow will be formed as soldiers without understanding a
purpose of humanity. It doesn't take a lifetime to achieve a full apocalyptic state of the earth, it can be achieved within a shorter span in space.
You, as everyone else, confuse "Science" with knowledge. Scientist don't have "knowledge"...or they wouldn't need to "experiment" to gain knowledge.
Nobody, not governments, not even tax payers need to pay for some jokers "hunch". I have my own "educated guesses" I want to pay for. Nobody's making
"war" on "science". Cool your jets. We wouldn't have half the worthless crap we don't need today without "science". ... Nobody is attacking
"Science". As long as men want to know more than they need to. ..."Science" will survive!
originally posted by: Hyperia
If you had a Choice, without repercussions, you would act as a monkey.
Enforce it, embrace it and be amazed with it.
Fixed for you.
Back to the OP I think so many just do not have any grasp of any type of science and because they don't understand they don't believe then we have
another crowd who actively lie about it to push their agenda.
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That's a long one. Is I'll put it on my watch list.
Synopsis: In this award winning documentary, NOVA captures the turmoil that tore apart the community of Dover, Pennsylvania in one of the latest battles over
teaching evolution in public schools. Featuring trial reenactments based on court transcripts and interviews with key participants, including expert
scientists and Dover parents, teachers, and town officials, "Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial" follows the celebrated federal case of
Kitzmiller v. Dover School District.
The citizens of many nations have allowed their government to be the mouthpiece for everything that is considered right and wrong. All information
that these citizens receive they get from the TV, radio or main stream internet websites (that are an extension of the TV programs they are used to
So when the television programs, program your vision, and the programming is government sanctioned and controlled we are left with an insanely stupid
collective mentality to simply accept what government decides because we collectively do not know any better.
Money and agendas are the new God that the government worships and whilst they mold their societies to be just smart enough to press the buttons but
dumb enough to not question the government we have the result such that science funding is forfeited for the sake of keeping citizens dumbed down and
government propped up.
As I keep saying, the sad fact is, is that Kim, Kanye, Caitlyn, Hollyweird, black gay muslim debates, war and immigration keep us focused on the right
hand whilst the left hand plays the real game.
In 100 years (if we haven't blown up the planet), the history books will record how it was this generation that allowed government to assume total
control of all facets of society under the illusion of freedom and democracy.
The bigger the governments power, the smaller the chance society has to self-improve, explore and research and our own history books are a testament
This is not surprising. Throughout most of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, science was regarded as largely beneficial to mankind. Massive
improvements in agriculture, communications, public health, child mortality and women's place in society resulted from science.
Investment in science and technology also helped countries wage war and defend themselves, so governments were willing to put up the money.
Most of that is over now. The latest advances in science and technology don't help much when it comes to fighting terrorists and brushfire wars in
poor countries. Progress in medical science has slowed almost to a standstill. Consumer technology has given people in rich countries more gadgets
than they know how to use.
Meanwhile, science has turned into a bearer of bad news. Global warming and climate change. Mass extinctions. The intractability of human nature. The
limits to physical exploration of the universe. The message is that, for humanity, the good times are over.
Who wants to hear that?
Of course science is getting less money. Particularly in democratic countries where the policy agenda is driven by public attitudes.
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Another propaganda video really promoting global warming. Its government that empowers science by funding research. If government wants us to believe
that the globe is warming, that unemployment is below 6%, inflation is low, WMD in Iraq etc, they will fund research that tells us so.
True science doesn't try to deny evidence that tells us that climate change is a natural state of our environment which remains within past
The war is waged by the corporations in colussion with their political partners. A scientifically literate society is bad for business. If there are
too many problem solvers in the general public they would be much less dependent on corporations for their products and services. Instead we have
Ancient Aliens on the "Science Channel."
And we just can't let religion off the hook here. It provides the foundation for following the crowd, not asking questions and being submissive. These
things are conditioned at a very early age. The essential element of a good scientist, curiosity, is usually atrophied by the time the children are
young adults. And the few that actually do become great thinkers are either bought out or held down by the overwhelming financial and political power
of the corporations.
'They' know how dangerous science and technology has become and will become. They need to keep the knowledge in trusted hands. They have been doing
this for a while now. In mainstream science, they have become experts at creating experiments and results to apparently disprove new theories, even if
said experiments and results are an illusion. Then they support incorrect theories and experiments as to keep the mainstream scientists chasing their
tails. It all starts in the education system.
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a reply to: Astyanax
Some good points Asty. Not a pretty picture to look at though. As one who has worked in the technological/computer industry for a long time, I have
often accused the industry of revamping and regurgitating old tech to maximize return. Most people walk in Walmart, and see new computers. I see old
tech that should be obsolete. Mechanical hard drives should already be extinct, yet 95% of computers are still running them, because SSD's aren't
considered cost effective at the production level. I could ramble on, but the point is, I see what you're saying in my own occupation. The industry is
slowing, and less money is being spent on real R&D.
a reply to: glend
There you go denying the science behind global warming. Do you really think NASA, NOAA, and scientists from all over the world are making up global
All you are doing is taking a page from the merchants of doubt playbook there and feeding the ignorance they promote.
The merchants of doubt are doing a hell of a job keeping people in the dark about what the actual science says about AGW. I have noticed that those
who call themselves republicans in the USA almost all deny the science behind AGW, yet they use political rhetoric to justify their belief(often with
great arrogance) instead of the actual science.
As someone who observes the great damage that is done by humans on this planet in the name of profiteering, it is truly heartbreaking that so many get
hoodwinked in believing AGW is some sort of liberal agenda to levy more taxes or worse.
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