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originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: butcherguy
Gotcha. I was confused to see that coming from you haha!
God knows somebody would see your comment and run with it though...
originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
a reply to: StoutBroux
opresssed minority angry at their treatment from the state and their neighbors? they are also controling info getting out so we may not get the full story of motivations etc for a while as china tries to contain this
originally posted by: Badgered1
Horrible. But lets put some perspective on this:
- my emphasis
Nine suspects are being pursued after they launched a coordinated knife attack and killed 50 workers at a northwestern Chinese coal mine, reports Radio Free Asia....
After overtaking security guards, the attackers killed the workers while they were asleep in bunkhouses at the Sogan colliery in Aksu. Another 50 workers were injured.
By my math, that's an average of 5.56 dead per attacker, and the same wounded.
Let's put semi-automatic, high capacity firearms in their hands - the type with which someone could kill dozens of people in seconds - and the death toll would have been far greater.
Had the victims been awake, i daresay the knife attack would not have been so successful.
So, sure, people will find a way to kill if they don't have access to firearms, they'll just be a lot less effective.
originally posted by: jappee
Horrible.. agreed. But I think something is being over looked.. IF there was firearms used in this attack setting at night, many may have been awakened and alerted to what was happening and subdue the attackers in mass or flee for their lives. Far less casualties would have resulted. This attack needed stealth to be so successful. Guns popping just aren't stealthy. But the popping of guns fired by the victims would be a great way to announce your counter attack and possibly cause the less than dedicated attacker to flee. Just a few rounds in the air could have reduced the casualties. Just a thought
originally posted by: Badgered1
Horrible. But lets put some perspective on this:
- my emphasis
Nine suspects are being pursued after they launched a coordinated knife attack and killed 50 workers at a northwestern Chinese coal mine, reports Radio Free Asia....
After overtaking security guards, the attackers killed the workers while they were asleep in bunkhouses at the Sogan colliery in Aksu. Another 50 workers were injured.
By my math, that's an average of 5.56 dead per attacker, and the same wounded.
Let's put semi-automatic, high capacity firearms in their hands - the type with which someone could kill dozens of people in seconds - and the death toll would have been far greater.
Had the victims been awake, i daresay the knife attack would not have been so successful.
So, sure, people will find a way to kill if they don't have access to firearms, they'll just be a lot less effective.
originally posted by: jappee
a reply to: makemap
Whatever, not trying to convince. And a suppressor would not be as effective as you imply.
And had the camp been armed, your suggesting they would have First sneak around to disarm them...then go sneaking back around to attack. SMH
originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: network dude
So we can talk about how a gun would stop this but not how it could have made it worse?