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without us you'd be in a much more dangerous place without the benefit of our efforts. in other words, you'd be the one obliged to act the primate....
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: spy66
Personally, I trust the Turks about as far as I can drop-kick them.
Lord know who and what they actually support or what they perceive to be gains if this turns into a shooting fracas....
originally posted by: Hyperia
a reply to: nwtrucker
Ideals does not exist in nature, therefor its an illusion of a transcended thought. Same ideals teaches not to war "Thou shalt not kill" sixth commandment.
Say what? Prove 'ideals don't exist in nature'. Primates aren't part of nature? A composite product of nature? Sorry, but your going to have to prove that statement. Slight correction, thou shalt not 'murder'...is the original translation.
I think most men are capable of murder, circumstances doesnt matter, the war is an excuse to murder without repercussions as a human. The duality in war is to take the percentage out of society which will never fit and give them a purpose.
Ah, based on that premise, those that murder had no other purpose? "take the percentage out of society which will never fit and give them purpose". What about the 100,000's of thousands that never murdered before being drafted and ceased that activity when war was done? That went onto a 'normal' life-without war- and lived out their lives?
My skepticism increases...
War is an ideal thought, its a unique human feature, in the basics, its Don Quijote. You are taught the ideals, you dont take them.
War isn't a 'thought'. It is an act. It may be based on a thought/ideal, but may be as 'base' as the instinctive desire to survive.
Why do you war?
I war because I choose to. Just as I do NOT war because I choose NOT to. There are no absolutes. I disagree with your premise.
You dont know why you war, thats the point.
If the Russians are "painting" our assets with radar, they are only shooting themselves in the foot. NATO, Turkey and everyone else has so much SIGINT aircraft in that area they are really giving us some good intel.
One can not win in a war against Russia.