a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
Jesus (Yeshua) is not us, we are reborn through him and through his sacrifice as he took our failing onto himself but only if we are willing to come
He is not every one you meat but did say "What you do unto the least of these" refering to small children, "You do also unto me".
But he also said this.
If we were jesus ourselves we would not be living in misery, if we were jesus ourselves we would not need saving by Jesus or by his blood as it would
be our own blood, if we were jesus we would already have the fountain of living water within us but we do not and all age and die.
Jesus said that in the Resurrection he will give to those whom are saved a new celestial body like the angels, un-aging, never getting sick and
tireless for we (or they whom he chooses that have come unto him and he accept's) shall then be angel's.
You see your perspective puts him as a metaphysical character and an alagory based in philosophy but all philosophy is foolishness before the true
lord almighty god and he and his son are very real not metaphisical or philosophical in nature.
Philosophy is a quest of thought, a journey to nowhere and metaphysics is merely a rehashed pseudo mystical branch of philosophy of which we are all
equally guilty but thought's are not action's unless they are carried out and applied in the real world rather than that inner pale reflection of
reality which is the world we each percieve within our own tiny minds as they endeavour to reflect the whole universe.
We simply can not do it, try picturing a leaf, with all it's detail and even down to the stoma and vein's and then down to the plant cell's
themselves with all there internal structure, there cytoblasts then down to the nucleus and all it's dna complexity and each atom by atom forming eath
molecule in that complex chain, try to hold onto just that leaf with all it's detail at the same time in your mind, this is the limit of consciousness
for anyone whom is not somehow superhuman and for normal people this is impossible as you try to see the whole detail of the whole leaf in all of it's
glory but then remember it is but one leaf on a tree, but a single tree in a forest, in a valley that is but one valley in a mountain range on a
continent on a planet in the universe and there may be many other universes beyond that.
The Problem is we create circular logic in our mind's, just as our eye sees limiter area of detail with a large area of peripheral vision so too does
our mind have that same tunnel vision and can struggle to focus on too much detail at once, the mind seem's to be hard wired to do this as it is how
we percieve the universe but remember what we can not see or detect we do not know and even our theory's only model conjecture and potential at what
is really there, what is reality.
Now if you say there is only I and God then yes you have a point as that is the You in your own mind but I am not you, You are not me and we both
exist as does god, if you are alone with god then since I am not god I therefore can not exist but I do so WE are not god and can not be, he is the
one whom can see it all and even made it all.
Jesus came to retrieve us and we can be with him but we will never be him unless we become perfect, he suffered for us despite our failing's, he the
god of the universe manifested himself as a man and suffered our state of being which shows he is even greater than if he had not.
We are not him, he is not us but he is our life, our way and our salvation, our resurrection and the only way we can come unto our father - him and
that is the only way to God through Jesus not philosophy or buddhism or new age rhetoric or pseudo mysticism as they are all dead end's that end
within the mind that uses them to try to achieve this goal, only through Jesus, not by our merit but by his.
edit on 6-10-2015 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)