a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin
I have given a lot of thought about this. Guns have been in our society since it was founded. However, even when I was in school long ago we might get
into a fist fight, but no one went off to get their weapons and shoot up a bunch of innocent people. However, one thing did change in our society
since the young people started going ballistic. And if you think the gun lobby is bad, just look at the pharmaceutical lobby.
These kids, most of them that eventually go ballistic and do a mass killing, have been given all sorts of psychoactive drugs when they are going
through development of their brains. These brain chemical altering substances create the problem that they never learned how to deal with depression,
anxiety, and many other mental health issues. It has become standard practice to prescribe a drug for every little mood disorder or problem. That is
one of the problems with trying to tackle the real problem in my opinion. The pharmaceutical industry and doctors have written and made extensive
changes to the DSM (Diagnostics & Statistical Manual for Mental health issues). They have added and come up with a disorder for every drug class they
can come out with. Now some of these people may really need to be medicated if they have a severe condition. But today people get a drug for every
little thing it seems. I was talking about it with a pharmaceutical regional manager (retired now) in my family. When he was growing up and when I
was, there were no drugs given to the majority of kids except the truly out of control ones. Now, every child has to sit quietly in school and not act
out, too much energy you get a drug. Depressed you get a drug. Have anxiety you get a drug. The problem is these kids never develop the tools most of
the older adults have of learning to deal with depression. It comes and goes. No one is happy all the time.
The problem comes in when you give these drugs early in life to children that never learn to deal with stress, anxiety, etc. the natural way we all
used to. Then they become adults and find out not everyone gets a trophy and life is a bitch. They can't handle it and explode. It may not be all
kids, but we don;t know when it is going to go wrong because no one has studied the issue. Sure certain people that have problems that we might
recognize in development are now being altered by a drug and we don't know little Johnny is a psychopath in development.
And when you mix multiple drugs, or mix one with illegal drugs the problem is just compounded. I believe this is why we are seeing this in this
generation. We used to do all the same things, but our generation did not get an A on every test, or a trophy.. We learned about competition early and
we were better prepared for adult life. Problem today is kids live in a fairy tale lie given to them by adults, teachers, and doctors. Both parents
have to work to make it in life today and don't have the time to really see the issues with the kids and often if there is one, it is covered by a
drug. A quick fix and no more problem, until later.
Guns will never be gone out of society. The EU with their strict no guns allowed laws are finding out that gun control is not working with the jihadis
over there. They are better armed than the police. That is because criminals do not follow the law. And while the US isn't needing to import guns,
they are smuggled into the EU. In Belgium, rookie police are sent out into the street during training to buy an AK47 and most complete the task within
2 hours. People think baning guns in the US will make gun deaths go away. It won't, just like the illegal drugs are not gone off the street. They will
come in, probably in full automatic variety along with the dope smuggled in. Criminals will get them. And the problem today is that the government
does not know how many guns are out there. For a long time they weren't tracked from the gun store. There were weapons brought home from wars, there
are people (I know a couple) that make guns like the AR-15 and these don't have serial numbers or any way to be tracked. Are you going to remove all
the metal lathes and punch presses from society as well?
The problem is that guns are here to stay for one. I don't care what laws you pass or how many you try to confiscate. They are buried in large PVC
tubes everywhere just so they are there if they are needed. Is the government going to dig up the countryside? Not a chance. So, by grabbing guns, you
will only make crime easier and more brazen. Then you will be feeling like you are in a 3rd world country.
This is why when you look at cities with the strictest gun laws, like Chicago since our President is from there, they are the worst for gun violence.
You only keep the good people from fending them off or at least being equal to their attackers. So, making the whole country like Chicago is not going
to help. And like others have mentioned, the determined actor will just resort to building bombs, or something else. It's not like you can't figure
out how to make them with common chemicals found in every hardware store with the internet available.
We have to find the source of the problem. What is making these people go off. I see two reasons. Either the drug issue, or religious extremism which
is mostly done by muslims as far as terrorist attacks go today. The Oregon shooter had a lot of connections to muslim extremists after reviewing his
myspace site's friends. Don't expect this administration to admit they were muslim extremists either. Just like the one that shot up Ft, Hood was
If people don't get over the BS PC crap and start calling things the way they are, you will never get to the source of whatever issue you are trying
to talk about. The PC crowd doesn't realize the PC tool was developed to tie up the language to describe problems with certain issues. Most normal
people aren't even educated enough to see there is a problem and accept that attacks like Ft. Hood were workplace violence and not the fact the guy
was a muslim extremist. Just look at any vide of reporters going out in the street to ask fellow Americans what they celebrate the 4th of July for, or
what countries border the US. It is quite alarming at the ignorace of so many Americans. But, that is part of the dumbing down of America program.
So, we have to look at the root causes and I gave you my opinion on what the root cause was.
In engineering we do 'root cause failure analysis' when something breaks down. That way we can repair not only the failure, but prevent it from
Gun control is all feel good but impractical in our society. Most honest police officers will tell you they are not here to protect you. That is your
job. They come after the fact in most instances. And in our reality, that means you better be able to protect yourself and in America that means a
gun. You also have to realize that a lot of the anti-gun people don't live in the same America the majority of us do. But if you live in a gated
community or on a golf course, you probably don't understand what it is like in the cities, or in low income or even many middle class areas. People
only know their experiences. Find the ROOT CAUSE and I think you will stop these mass shootings. Drug inhibited developing minds and Extremism imho.