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How Bernie Sanders would transform the nation

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posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 03:46 PM
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By the way, I'm always told from the Republicans that the poor are the problem with the country because they use the system. So if they are so lazy, then you won't have to worry about them going out of their ways to take advantage of these programs. Plus, he hasn't come out with all the details yet. The election is still a ways away.




posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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Trickle down economics isn't working, the gulf between the 1% and the rest of us has widened since 2008. But not only has the 1% increased their wealth, the average person has seen their wealth decrease in real terms.

Maybe it is time for flood down economics, let's make taxation fair and pay your fair taxes.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 03:54 PM
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Guys everything is gonna be ok because Hillary and Trump are much better options



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: ketsuko
What do we want? Free s***!

Who's going to give it to us? Bernie!

What do we not understand? Economics!

You may want to brush up on your economics as well. None of it is free it is paid for by the tax payers.


Maybe you should. We are already taxed to death in a weak economy. We cannot pay for anything else. No more free stuff going to the Progressive Liberal voters.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
What do we want? Free s***!

Who's going to give it to us? Bernie!

What do we not understand? Economics!


I call those people the "FSA"

You know, the Free # Army.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 04:08 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn

originally posted by: ketsuko
What do we want? Free s***!

Who's going to give it to us? Bernie!

What do we not understand? Economics!


I call those people the "FSA"

You know, the Free # Army.


It doesn't have to be black and white or free. Why not exchange for civil service something like job training or college. Everybody is too busy fighting to make solutions.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
What do we want? Free s***!

Who's going to give it to us? Bernie!

What do we not understand? Economics!


LOL!

Priceless!


Nail on the head.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

It doesn't have to be black and white or free. Why not exchange for civil service something like job training or college. Everybody is too busy fighting to make solutions.


I totally agree with all 3 statements.

If you really think about it, we could almost wipe taxes out completely by requiring just 1 year of civil service from everyone.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 05:36 PM
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"" How Bernie Sanders would transform the nation ""

The U.S. will become a fully taxed state of confusion and failure.




posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: harvestdog
All these ideas and plans sound great.
We would seriously take care of a lot of basic essential needs for all citizens with a slight increase in taxes on trades and income over $250,000.

Who has a problem with pitching in to make us all a little stronger?

How can any civilized society not have free medical and higher education?

You think they have student loans with interest and $500,000 hospital bills in StarTrek?



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 06:03 PM
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I don't think we're looking at this the right way. Sander's is a "Student" of Socialism, meaning he studies it and where it's successful. What that would mean to you and me is that he would try to work things into American that are working in the Nordic nations, like Norway, Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, and Denmark. Countries with very high standards of living and quality of life. Also realizing that not every one of those countries and not everything that works or that he would try to emulate is Socialism, it's just stuff that works.


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posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 06:06 PM
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a reply to: amazing

It's not successful ANYWHERE.

Taken a good look at Europe lately ?



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 06:57 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing

It's not successful ANYWHERE.

Taken a good look at Europe lately ?



I was just in Germany, Holland, nd Poland. Seemed great.

There is no perfect system.

They do have better education and test scores.

We have better opportunity for starting bussinesses.

They have more family time we have more opportunity for growing wealth.

The whole worlds economy has troubles now and again.

There is no perfect system. It just depends what you want out of life.

In the US it depends what voters want. I am libertarian for the most part want as little government as possible. But I understand it's about representing the voters. If they want progressive policy too bad for me. I still stick by the laws of the land.


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posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: amazing

It's not successful ANYWHERE.

Taken a good look at Europe lately ?



Those nordic, northern countries are all doing reasonably well though.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 08:08 PM
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originally posted by: Bennyzilla
a reply to: buster2010

Because the ones taking advantage of it the most are paying tons in taxes right?

Well when you have the working people paying a higher percentage of their wages when compared to the wealthy who pay a lower percentage then yes the people that pay the most will benefit from it.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 08:14 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: ketsuko
What do we want? Free s***!

Who's going to give it to us? Bernie!

What do we not understand? Economics!

You may want to brush up on your economics as well. None of it is free it is paid for by the tax payers.


Maybe you should. We are already taxed to death in a weak economy. We cannot pay for anything else. No more free stuff going to the Progressive Liberal voters.


If you think you are paying high taxes now then you know nothing about taxes. You should have been working when we paid upwards to 80% in taxes. Funny you say no free stuff for liberals but say nothing about all the corporate welfare for corporations which is also paid for by the taxpayers.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 08:16 PM
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a reply to: harvestdog

So Sanders wants to raise taxes and increase government. I thought this was a conspiracy site!!!

Do we trust and love government now? WTH?



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 08:18 PM
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Bernie just doesn't get it.. We need to leave NAFTA, we need manufacturing back in the USA and total economic trade war against China to survive this crappy ass bottoming out economy.

The real problem with costs is the devaluing dollar more than anything and the only way to strengthen that back up is to start producing again.
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posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 08:20 PM
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If you think you are paying high taxes now then you know nothing about taxes. You should have been working when we paid upwards to 80% in taxes


And when , do tell , was this? Keep in mind I am an old man and have been working for a long , long time...And I have always lived in the US.Just a FYI





posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 08:21 PM
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originally posted by: amazing

Those nordic, northern countries are all doing reasonably well though.


Don't fall for the MSM B.S.

Those countries are just as screwed up as anywhere else.


A Look at Poverty in Norway

The world’s richest country is Norway. The population of Norway is 4.5 million people. Despite the wealth of the country due to oil commodities, poverty still exists. In the capital of Oslo, 8.3 percent of the population suffers from poverty. The populations that are affected the most by poverty are immigrants, families with children and single parents, and those who are on social security.

As of 2014, child poverty is on the rise in Norway. It is estimated that 78,000 children are suffering at this time. Three point four percent of children are living in a state of ‘relative’ poverty. In Norway, it is defined as households with income below 50 per cent of the national median.



A ban on beggars in Norwegian cities is not the answer to homelessness

The most visible of the beggars that Norway has been seeking to outlaw are immigrants, arrived from poverty-stricken parts of eastern Europe. During the day they line the city streets here, holding out little cardboard cups. At night they retreat to their worn-out, overcrowded box vans – ageing, rusty vehicles that might contain six people sleeping. They park wherever they can, sometimes in the middle of well-established housing areas, until they are asked to leave by neighbours or the local police.

But there are plenty of Norwegian-born homeless too, if more hidden from view. The majority of these are single mothers, victims of violence in the home. A fifth are 18-25 years old, half are addicted to drugs or alcohol, and 40% suffer from psychiatric illnesses. Most find a place to stay at night thanks to private shelters and NGOs, but some sleep on the streets and in doorways. Others go to noisy hostels paid for by the municipalities, where they stay warm but attract drug and alcohol pushers who only make the problem worse.





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