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Russia's parliament grants permission sought by Vladimir Putin to use military force

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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 06:12 AM
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President Vladimir Putin has been granted permission from the upper house of Russia's parliament to carry out air strikes in Syria following a request from the Kremlin.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Russia's main military goal was to combat terrorism — assumed to be in reference to Islamic State militants (IS) — and support the forces of president Bashar al-Assad. "The main objective is the fight against terrorism and supporting the legitimate authorities in Syria in the fight against terrorism and extremism," he said.

Early on Wednesday, Mr Putin submitted a proposal to the Federation Council to deploy "a contingent of troops" abroad, the Kremlin said in a statement. Later in the day in televised remarks, the head of the presidential administration Sergei Ivanov said: "The Federation Council unanimously supported the president's request."

ABC

What they didn´t mention about Putin´s request is that it was different than one he asked towards Ukraine. In Ukraine request he named Ukraine exactly as a country he wants permission to use military actions against. This new request was general request, no countries were mentioned just permission to use military actions abroad..

Even the war could spread across borders in Syria, this permission could be used against other countries like countries in Baltia etc. Who knows




posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 06:53 AM
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It's safe to assume in was in relation to Syria, rather than a broad statement of permission to attack any country.

The while thing is interesting as he supports assad and will be deemed a hero by those countries seeing failures in their own governments to address this terrorist threat. He will be the best of both worlds, reestablish assad government and destroy rebel forces. Well played.

Does anyone else feel there will be a large presence of ISIS in Ukraine and Georgia in the coming months?
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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 07:03 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

Not being able to cross boarders without first requesting permission from a legislative body, is dumb.

Think Vietnam, it is a small thinnly shaped country.

The Viet Cong would jump across the boarder and we couldn't touch them.

Which is a really dumb way to wage a war if you intend to win it as fast as possible.

Which should always be the case.

Instead of dragged out never ending wars, like those since Vietnam.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 07:07 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

He's making public that which has been true all along…


"The main objective is the fight against terrorism and supporting the legitimate authorities in Syria in the fight against terrorism and extremism," he said.

Just lending a (much needed?) hand in the war on Terror, isn't that what the west claims its doing? 6000 air sorties later and we haven't got a handle on it yet? Should be glad to get some more help.…

Get them insurgents, terrs, whatever they're called.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 07:35 AM
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From what I've read they will carry out strikes at the request of the Syrian army.

They have also set up a communications centre with Iraq and Iran.

Finally some brains being used.

I wonder if this will expose some of the things that some on here accuse the west and Saudis of being involved in.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 07:46 AM
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Good shooting to russia I say



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 07:53 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

Well, it makes sense.

It's because there are multiple countries fighting in Syria. Putin did asked the west for an anti-ISIS alliance, but hey, it's more important to overthrow Assad, than to destroy these terrorists.

And he did issues a warning to the US to remove their warplanes from Syria if they are not going to help. Let's see how these situation evolves.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 07:58 AM
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Russia started to Bomb targets at 12:00 EU time at Homs which according to western media is not a IS stronghold. It is controlled by Syrian rebels.

The US did not stop their activities on Russian request, but the US have not interfered With Russia activities around Homs.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 08:14 AM
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a reply to: spy66

That is very alarming as a first target, i wonder what evidence Putin has that it was a IS target. Did he just fooled his own Parliament among others and do what he pleases.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 08:17 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

How so?

He said he's going to fight the terrorists and extremist, and that he's going to support the official government and it's forces. And that's exactly what he's doing.

I mean, you can even read it in your own article.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 08:23 AM
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a reply to: Nikola014

That is "direct hit" on US which is supporting rebels.. read between the lines.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

Well obviously.

Read again my first post on this thread. The US has been warned to remove it's planes from Syria. If they get caught in the cross fire, Russians will just say "Hey we warned you".

Interesting situation, we will have to see how's it develops.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 08:30 AM
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The size of the Russian force means we will see either a bunch of short term symbolic strikes or a few strikes a week long term. I would be on the first as the Russians have big problems with keeping their planes in air for any increase in op tempo for long. Not enough to make a difference one way or the other. However, it does provide a nice distraction from the never ending mess in Ukraine and the unrest it is causing at home. Gets lots of press, does not require much effort.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 08:39 AM
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originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: spy66

That is very alarming as a first target, i wonder what evidence Putin has that it was a IS target. Did he just fooled his own Parliament among others and do what he pleases.


Until now all the information we have been getting is from western media Sources. Who the rebels at Homs really are is to early to say.

What rebel fraction that have been doing what to who is also to early to say. We have only being given information which support Our activities in Syria. In other Words we have being given information that is in the best interests of the US. Non of the intell we have been given have to be true.

Ther eis no Law that state that the government or the media have to tell the truth.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 08:52 AM
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a reply to: dollukka




Even the war could spread across borders in Syria, this permission could be used against other countries like countries in Baltia etc. Who knows


Doll...I want to ask you a question. You're from Finland if I'm not mistaken. Are you really afraid that Putin would invade any of the Baltic or Nordic states ?

If yes...what gives you that notion ? I'm honestly interested.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Baltian countries have been quite stressed about Putin´s actions ( Mostly those with NATO ) ever since Ukrainian conflict started. NATO has done military drills to find out how well they are able to protect Baltian NATO countries and the results were sad, they were not able to protect much only couple of biggest cities. Putin is placing Iskander missiles in Kalingrad ( next to Poland ) and area these missiles can attack is almost whole Baltia including Southern Sweden and Denmark, Germany, Poland, Liethuanian etc.
Googlemap
Not to mention that couple days ago Russian embassador in Poland blamed Poland actions why WWII started.
Poland news..needs translator
There has been a lot of mistrust between Russia and Baltian countries for a long time, Soviets planes without transponders on entering inside borders etc supposedly mistakenly and sometimes not even responding when asked to identify.. either those military planes are very poor and technology is bad on those.
Kalingrad for snap drills
Well "drill" was in March but Iskanders stayed.

We are not in NATO but some pressure towards us has been there too.. including these "non functioning planes"
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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

If Putin and the Russians want to go after ISIS Daesh
no matter where they are on their continent.
More power to them.
ISIS directly threatens Russian soil and is quite close to Russia.

While the US needs to get out and stay out of the Middle East.

So many on ATS claim that ISIS is directly the US's fault.
Well, that is all the more reason for the US to get out.

Obama failed the US on this horribly when he promised
to get the troops out and then left them in
and then turned a blind eye while the injured troops
were tossed in the trash by the VA.

The US needs to butt out of the affairs of those a continent away.

That said, Russia is directly threatened
and it's citizens directly threatened
and it's soil directly threatened
by the continued existence of ISIS.


No one accuses Russia of causing the problems in the ME,
and they are directly affected
by the problems.

Russia has every right to go after ISIS where ever it is
that is on their continent and directly threatens their way of life.

We should be supportive of the Russian's
in this attempt to destroy ISIS and all Muslims
who want to kill anyone who doesn't believe
exactly as they do and act in the same barbaric
and sexually deviant/peodophillic/misogynistic
way they do.



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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 09:42 AM
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a reply to: grandmakdw

There is much more in the picture than that. Putin also let´s Syrian refugees ( those are against Assad ) trespass Russia to enter in Europe. Russia which is usually very strict when it comes to its borders. Now he started to bomb Homs which is said to be student area not a ISIS area but still lets possible ISIS fighters to EU through his own country. Never assume Putin´s agenda is as it seems.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: dollukka

Finnish President Niinistö agreed that the Russian perspective should have been considered earlier.

Presidentti Niinistö toivoo Venäjän ja USA:n lähentyvän Syyria-ratkaisussa
(article in Finnish - President Niinistö hopes Russia and USA agree on Syrian solution).

The article is from 4th September, before the UN meeting.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 10:03 AM
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honestly at this point if the area in question was a barn and we were taking pot shots at it, any hit is points on the board in my opinion.




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