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How to prove the Earth is not flat.

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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:26 AM
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ENOUGH!



The insults and off topic discussion about each other ENDS NOW.

We expect civil discussion in these forums here on ATS.

If you can not debate your points without including insults, it is time to walk away from the thread.

Anymore posts of that nature will be removed and post bans will be handed out.

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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:30 AM
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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:32 AM
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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:35 AM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: projectbane




Why we can not feel the earth spinning at 1000mph


if you ride by train and close the windows...do you feel that you're traveling at 100 mp/h ? is wind messing up your hair ?


Also, when you are on the Japanese bullet train travelling at 400 km/h and you throw a ball into the air - does it remain in its original lat/long (appearing to shoot horizontally as fast as a bullet) or does it come back down so you can catch it?

The Blimp is the ball - same dog.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:36 AM
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a reply to: Sublimecraft

Hello, and hat off to you for being a navy captain.

Thanks for your question and statement. I myself am not a sailor but I did speak to a 37 year captain of the Royal Navy 2 years ago and this is what he told me OFF THE RECORD

Ship captians often found themselves off "target" when navigating south of the equator.

Using the ball earth theory that would be explained that line of latitude south of the equator would narrow or rather gradually get smaller and smaller and so many Captains have found themselves way off course south of the equator throughout the last 200 years.

In fact and I quote


During Captain James Clark Ross’s voyages around the Antarctic circumference, he often wrote in his journal perplexed at how they routinely found themselves out of accordance with their charts, stating that they found themselves an average of 12-16 miles outside their reckoning every day, later on further south as much as 29 miles.



Lieutenant Charles Wilkes commanded a United States Navy exploration expedition to the Antarctic from 1838 to 1842, and in his journals also mentioned being consistently east of his reckoning, sometimes over 20 miles in less than 18 hours.




To answer your question is rather hard. But im not a flat earth or Globe earth believer yet. I am undecided. However. We have been taught that the earth spins 1000pmh and we fly round the sun at 65000 mph and our solar system flies around the galaxy at 500,000 mph all perfectly in time and tune.

NOW...maybe everything travels round the earth and not the sun!! That would answer your question would it not?


Thank you



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:37 AM
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a reply to: projectbane

Again If you post quotes and such post the links showing us where you have otten them.
You should know this already.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:38 AM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: projectbane




Why we can not feel the earth spinning at 1000mph


if you ride by train and close the windows...do you feel that you're traveling at 100 mp/h ? is wind messing up your hair ?


Also, when you are on the Japanese bullet train travelling at 400 km/h and you throw a ball into the air - does it remain in its original lat/long (appearing to shoot horizontally as fast as a bullet) or does it come back down so you can catch it?

The Blimp is the ball - same dog.


Wrong the ball would have to be above the train....the same as the blimp above the earth. You are the one who said the blimp is the ball so to test this fact both unbiased and logically the ball must be above freely of the object



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:41 AM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: projectbane

Again If you post quotes and such post the links showing us where you have otten them.
You should know this already.



That is your answer....you tried to prove me wrong and i answered you and your retort is of potential T@C violations. Typical....just like NASA...Never A Straight Asnwer. OR more aptly.......Need Another Seven Astronauts

just a little joke to lighten the mood as this is turning out to be a nice little debate. So i do thank you for your time. I may be wrong but so might you.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:46 AM
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a reply to: projectbane

Bedtime for me here in 4838490

I will continue this in a few hours when the sun (not 93,000,000 away) rises and I awake.

Thank you too all for your time and efforts and sharing your thoughts



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:47 AM
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So, if you got in a plane and were able to see the ground for the whole time you were in it, then flew off and continued in one direction (let's take the weather out of the equation for now) wouldn't you end up where you started?

How would that work if the earth was flat? I think I'm missing something.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:47 AM
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a reply to: projectbane

So you will not post where you get your info? so why should we bother? you could just be making it all up.
To refute your wild claims we need to see where you get your info.
Oh and we have many things actually measuring the rotation of the earth such as the Global positioning system and the Very long baseline interferometry.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

So again we do know and can measure the rotation of the earth.


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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:49 AM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: projectbane




Why we can not feel the earth spinning at 1000mph


if you ride by train and close the windows...do you feel that you're traveling at 100 mp/h ? is wind messing up your hair ?


Actually you do feel the train moving. Nice try. haha wtf?



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:51 AM
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I've been in a plane and flew across/around the world. I've been on ships traveling in the ocean.

My biggest take away, the earth looked flat from above and when surrounded by ocean.

Mind = Blown

The one celestial body we can see with the naked eye always shows his same side.....don't figure.

Science comes down to observations right? What are my observations telling me?

The world must be flat! And yet, that blasted sun. Where does he wander off to every night? And how does that sneaky bugger get back to his starting point on the other side without me spotting him?

Another personal observation.

Why is a thread arguing for round earth theory in Skunkworks?

Yet another personal observation.

What's the conclusion?

That I simply would prefer the Overview Effect.
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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:51 AM
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a reply to: projectbane

I am not here to convince you that the earth is a sphere, I merely comment on my own experience...irrespective of how disappointed I am with our conversation.

Since you are undecided, what shape is the earth? considering that "flat" is not a shape but a description. Does the earth have measurable height, width and depth? or is it only width and depth. Is it a flat circle or a flat something else? Where is the edge of this flat shape that has eluded all navigators even before Vasco da Gama and Galileo?



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:54 AM
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a reply to: projectbane
I'm sorry but you are wrong. You aren't on the fence you genuinely believe the earth is flat based on previous comments. I feel I have to lower the intellect for you to understand.

From where you are how come you can't see mount everest? Is it because your eyes can't see far enough or because of something called the horizon. I can ask more age 5 question if it helps get you back on course.

P.s quoting navigation records of a sea captain from 200 yrs ago doesn't help justify a point on flat earth.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:56 AM
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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:57 AM
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a reply to: projectbane
You feel acceleration, not constant speed. Without windows or acceleration, you wouldn't notice movement at constant speed.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:58 AM
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originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: projectbane

So you will not post where you get your info? so why should we bother? you could just be making it all up.
To refute your wild claims we need to see where you get your info.
Oh and we have many things actually measuring the rotation of the earth such as the Global positioning system and the Very long baseline interferometry.

en.wikipedia.org...

en.wikipedia.org...

So again we do know and can measure the rotation of the earth.



Again both BS.
which you know nothing about concerning the articles you just throw up!! Poor mans effort at an argument. You should actually know your topic much better in which to argue.

They used to use LORAN and DECCA and were nicely established before MR Arthur C CLARKE (yes the freemason novelist and BS) came up with the use of "satellites"

Gigantic cell towers that bounce GPS all over the place are tested only on a global ball system and adjusted to that. They could be used on a cube or a flat earth an work just as well. OR one that is not spinning.

Plus the spinning earth theory goes against other physics and laws.


The second law of thermodynamics, otherwise known as the law of entropy, along with the fundamental principles of friction/resistance determine the impossibility of Earth being a uniformly spinning ball. Over time, the spinning ball Earth would experience measurable amounts of drag constantly slowing the spin and lengthening the amount of hours per day. As not the slightest such change has ever been observed in all of recorded history it is absurd to assume the Earth has ever moved an inch.



And for your answer there is no source to put. Simple. Maybe they are the writings of an idiot like me!



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 05:59 AM
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originally posted by: projectbane

originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
a reply to: projectbane




Why we can not feel the earth spinning at 1000mph


if you ride by train and close the windows...do you feel that you're traveling at 100 mp/h ? is wind messing up your hair ?


Actually you do feel the train moving. Nice try. haha wtf?


What do you feel ? tell me...



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 06:01 AM
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a reply to: projectbane

Fine have to your way no point conversing with someone who will not link their claims.
Like you said it could all be just the ramblings of an idiot.
Moving on not wasting my time on utter ill educated nonsense.
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