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originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: crazyewok
Quite - I know some people who used to be diehard pro-EU types who are wavering and some have flipped. I even used to be open to the EU but now, as long as we get a free trade agreement or rejoin the EFTA then I see no benefit to remaining in the EU whatsoever.
Why has the little nation of Qatar spent 3 billion dollars to support the rebels in Syria? Could it be because Qatar is the largest exporter of liquid natural gas in the world and Assad won’t let them build a natural gas pipeline through Syria? Of course. Qatar wants to install a puppet regime in Syria that will allow them to build a pipeline which will enable them to sell lots and lots of natural gas to Europe
originally posted by: stumason
a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport
If it was what you meant, it didn't read that way, sorry! But you have clarified that - perhaps it was me being confused instead
But yes, the biggest supporters of the rebels (and the hardcore Islamist ones like Al Nusra and IS) have been Qatar and Saudi along with Turkey to a lesser extent, not the US like some crazy people here would have you believe. The West has genuinely tried to support the moderate groups but they are the minority as the larger, Islamist groups got plenty of cash and weapons from the Arabs.
That said, Al Nusra and ISIS are at each others throats as well. It is truly a multi-faceted and multi-front war with lots of factions all vying for control.
"The Commission does not take the blame because it does not care about the political cost," said the EU migration commissioner.
"The Commission is here for five years to do its job and we did it with vision, responsibility and commitment. Because what is driving us is not to be reelected. That is why for us the political cost means nothing."
originally posted by: pikestaff
I can see Europe falling into little city states like Greece was 3,000 year ago, and might be again, with some cities being moslem, other Roman catholic, and then the Anglicans, Jesuits, etc., with Russia demanding tribute now and then.
The rich cities will stay rich, the poor cities will become sink holes for those no one else wants.
National power grids will collapse, good agricultural land will be fought over many times, canals
and rivers will silt up, lands will get flooded, and be useless for food production, and the four horsemen will be very much in evidence.
How do you like that scenario?
originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
It has just been confirmed that ex Chancellor Nigel Lawson is to be made President of Conservatives for Britain and support a referendum to get out of the EU.
Well thats a relief to have someone so capable at the helm of our Euro future !
originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: Aazadan
The difference being we aren't as passive as Europe.
If a great deal are sent here the govt wont enact martial law on them but on US when we get them BEFORE law enforcement when they expose hostile intentions and we kill them for it.
originally posted by: dismanrc
I have said for a long time it is going to fall apart. No way could you build one block from all these countries with 1000's of years of national heritage. They wanted to copy the economic power of the US and our 50 states. But they failed to understand history. Yes we are 50 states, but we are all one country that was built combining people from every where. Greece will always be Greek, Germany will always be German, France will always be French. They will never "hurt" the motherland for the EU no matter what they say.
originally posted by: chewi
a reply to: yeahsurexxx
Just like refugee we move away from areas that are not condusive to our way of life. WHY?