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The Republicans Have The Only Viable Candidates for 2016

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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
a reply to: amazing

I also like Rand Paul, but he isn't close to the man his father is and there is something about him I don't trust.. If I had to choose between Bush and Sanders I would choose Sanders because I believe he is at least an honest man. I just don't like his politics. I can't see how any sane human would vote for Hilary. She is vile.


He's not perfect

But he has not come out with anything stupid or out right retarded like any of the others..... That's got to count for something




posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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edit on 30-9-2015 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 12:14 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: Metallicus

And look how it turned out...
Like the great Dubya had to say

"I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says, 'Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me... You can't get fooled again!'"


It kills me that people really fell for that "dumb good old boy" act.



More smoke and mirrors but you cant fool you guys ;P



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 12:40 PM
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What kills me is the LEFT actually thinks they are smarter than the RIGHT.

W would have sounded smarter if he never left the White House without a TELEPROMPTER.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 01:38 PM
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a reply to: neo96

It's actually true since we love to know the facts before we react. Unlike the right that ignore facts, are easily led by propaganda.

The planned parenthood story is a perfect example. Heavily edited videos, that carley chick talking lying about a live baby being cut up..etc.

Only the lack of intelligence would fall for such lies..etc



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 01:43 PM
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a reply to: lucifershiningone

So did you miss the ACA, shovel ready projects, Benghazis, and deserters are American 'heroes' ?

And Redlines over in Syria, Climate change, and the LIST GOES ON.

Sorry It's not true, and SO FAR from being true it's actually hilarious.
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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 03:14 PM
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Actually the NAZIs were socialist. So are you saying that you identify as a NAZI?

reply to: Kali74



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
What kills me is the LEFT actually thinks they are smarter than the RIGHT.

W would have sounded smarter if he never left the White House without a TELEPROMPTER.


But that problem goes both ways. The Right also thinks it is smarter than the left.



posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 03:54 PM
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a reply to: lucifershiningone

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" The planned parenthood story is a perfect example. Heavily edited videos, that carley chick talking lying about a live baby being cut up..etc. "



Heavily Edited Videos you Say ? So how is Life Really like for You in Delusionalland ?
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posted on Sep, 30 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: CB328
I wonder why the OP ignored all the Democratic candidates except Hillary in his "objective" analysis. Jim Webb, for example, has always seemed like a fairly moderate guy.


I ignored all but three of the Republican candidates because I don't like them. I also included Bernie Sanders which you failed to notice. I actually worded this entire post carefully to keep it from becoming party bickering and still can't simply get people to discuss ideas without bringing their slavery to their preferred party into play.

I appreciate your feedback, but I am damned if I do and damned if I don't. It is frustrating to me that we can't have intelligent debate on ATS anymore.

ETA: I actually have seen Jim Webb speak, but I am under the impression he is buried somewhere deep beneath Hilary and Bernie and won't be a factor this election cycle. He did seem somewhat reasonable, but I am more interested in someone who isn't a career politician.
edit on 2015/9/30 by Metallicus because: ETA



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 04:05 AM
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originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: crazyewok

Yep, Rand Paul seems like the one with the most common sense, and I find it surprising that the OP labels himself as a libertarian but finds trump, Fiorina and Carson the most electable.




Not so surprising. As he said they are the only ones NOT a Political lock step candidate.

Rand is just like the rest Talk, talk, talk. Look at his actions and votes. He toes the line just like all the others.

I like Carson and Trump both, not so much Fiorina. Mostly because of her dealing with HP and her need for major financial backing.

Carson I like because of who he is and his background. His major issue is also money.

Trump I like the best because of two major things. No need for ANY major money backing, so cuts the lobby chains.
Second is his straight forward anti-PC approach.

I also like Cruz, but he does not have the money backing.

Umm

Maybe like this:

Trump/Cruz ticket
Carson as Surgeon General or head of HHS
Trey Gowdy head of Justice



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 04:32 AM
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originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: muse7
a reply to: crazyewok

Yep, Rand Paul seems like the one with the most common sense, and I find it surprising that the OP labels himself as a libertarian but finds trump, Fiorina and Carson the most electable.



I find many here ATS are too embarrassed to call themselves Religious conservative or Authoritarian conservative and so hide behind the libertarian label.

Remember people voted for Bush and someone voted for McCain.......




Um don't know about that.

Yes I voted for Bush. I like the man and though he did a good job. I also didn't agree with every thing he did, but looking at a lot of the chooses he had I don't know if I could of done better. Always easier to see the path a few years latter. Read his Autobiography it is pretty good. Even he said in it he wished he had done some things differently. As far as McCain, I voted for him as the best of two evils, not so much because I liked him.

As far as calling myself a Libertarian, its closer to my beliefs then any other title.
I am conservative in most ways, but really don't care what people do at home. Just use some common sense and be respectful in public. Can't be called a religious conservative. I was raised Baptist and do believe in God, but my wife is Muslin and I have no problem with that. Hard to call me a religious conservative.

Liberals have a very bad habit of calling anybody that does not toe the line a religious conservative, when in fact most of us do trend to be closer to the Libertarian view. I'll tell you what I believe and I'll tell you I think you are wrong, but as long as you don't keep hitting me in the face with it --- I really DON'T care about how you live you life. Get drunk, stoned, live with another guy or even you favorite animal, Just when you are in public be reasonable and respectful. As far a funding, the government should not give a dime to Planned Parenthood, a Church, Social Security, Health care (other then Emergency Services), retirement or any number of other things that we should be responsible for yourself. Sounds pretty close to Libertarian to me.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 04:53 AM
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a reply to: russ212

No.



posted on Oct, 1 2015 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: Kali74

From your source....


Hitler, when asked whether he supported the "bourgeois right-wing", claimed that Nazism was not exclusively for any class, and indicated that it favoured neither the left nor the right, but preserved "pure" elements from both "camps", stating: "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxist dogma, living, creative Socialism".[12]


Nazism



posted on Oct, 2 2015 @ 08:47 AM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
I have been very disappointed with the overall quality of candidates available for the last few elections. I almost didn't vote in 2012 because I couldn't see any difference between Obama and his equally idiotic opponent, Romney. No matter which way I turn I end up with more Government overreach and control and frankly I am down to voting for whoever will do the least damage.

So, in analyzing the candidates that are available for 2016 from the major parties I end up having to give the Republicans the nod simply because they offer three political outsiders that are at least somewhat palatable. I am not sure who I would choose among Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina and Dr. Ben Carson, but they are all three much more agreeable to me than what the Democrats are offering this cycle.

I simply don't see choosing between a criminal and a crusty old Communist as any choice at all. Both of these candidates are completely unelectable in my opinion.

So if I decide to vote I hope that one of the candidates available will be on of the political outsiders offered by the Republicans. I and many other Americans are tired of choosing between two tired old politicians.
If everyone voted for someone who they thought would genuinely do a great job, rather than voting for a corporate shill of the Republican or Democrat type, then this problem would not exist. Furthermore, if everyone would not violate moral values by voting to do things that are morally wrong, like taking away other people's property without their permission, then we would also not have this problem. The sheep are quite stupid when they walk them self into a corner, and given the nature of democracy the situation seems quite hopeless.

The only thing that can save people in general would be the realization that if something is wrong for them to do individually, then it would also be wrong to do as a group. I'm talking about forcing people into a social contract they when they do not agree to the terms, and have no way out of the contract. That kind of contract is a joke, and that is what we have as a social contract.



posted on Oct, 2 2015 @ 09:29 AM
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Sure they are if you want more wars and the complete destruction of the middle class



posted on Oct, 2 2015 @ 10:52 AM
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its simple
the republicans dont want the white house
that potato is hot

the next four years are looking fairly tumultuous regardless of who becomes president and whichever party gets it is going to catch all the flak

better to wait and swoop in like a vulture



posted on Oct, 2 2015 @ 11:10 AM
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I'll almost surely be voting for Bernie Sanders, as he is the closest thing to an honest candidate available. If you think that the Republicans have the only viable candidate, then you have no clue what the word viable means.



posted on Oct, 2 2015 @ 03:24 PM
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a reply to: NihilistSanta

Cool cherry-picking, but where was the socialism in Nazi Germany?



posted on Oct, 2 2015 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: Kali74

Those are Hitler's words . You can call it cherry picking if you would like. So you contend there was no abolishing of private property and that collectivist control and policies were not a part of the Nazi regime? Nothing was nationalized?



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