Topic and Discussion Index for PHILADELPHIA/MONTAUK/ RAINBOW/ELDRIDGE EXPERIMENTS/PROJECT

Not really...i mean..i can't exactly describe what you are trying to say..

Originally posted by Seekerof
This index covers all relevant ATS related PHILADELPHIA/MONTAUK/ RAINBOW/ELDRIDGE discussions:
Philadelphia/Monteuk Experiments
Al Bielek from the Philadelphia experiment...
The Philadelphia Project. Truth or Myth?
Philadelphia Experiment: Al Bielek
Is there any hard evidence that the PHILADELPHIA Experiment Ever Occured?
Montauk Project Underground Videos
Montauk
Project Rainbow AKA The Philadelphia Experiment
The Philadelphia Project
?Survivors? of the Philadelphia Experiment debunked
Philadelphia Project
Montauk Project
USS eldridge Order to shut down
Philidelphia Experiment show on right now.
Need Philadelphia Experiment info
The Philadelphia Project- It really happened
Camp Hero (as in Montauk Project) Satellite Image
Montauk and Stewart Swerdlow
The Montauk Project
looking for information on project rainbow, aka the philadelphia experiment
The "Philadelphia Experiment"
Philadelphia Experiment: Al Bielek exposed as swindler
The Philadelphia Project- It really happened
remote-viewing the 'Montauk Project'
Al Bielek from the Philadelphia experiment...
Philadelphia Experiment and AI
The Philadelphia Experiment
Philadelphia Experiment
The Philadelpia Experiment -Info
Phillidelphia Experiment
Philadelphia Experiment is it possible to make something invisible ?
The Rainbow Project
The Philadelphia Project, U.S.S. Eldridge and Project Rainbow
Montauk Project-is it real?
USS Eldridge: Reference Resources
Philadelphia experiment possibility?



This index is to be updated and/or amended, as needed/required.


seekerof

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[edit on 17-8-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]

i dont like saying this, there have been a few books, a bit of money made and followings had.

but truth be know, Nichols Swerdlow and that whole lot are a bit on the lieng side of things.

for example Stewart Swerdlows grandfather was not a Russian spy working for Russia here in america, he was a Nazi Spy woking in Russia, Yogada, a real peice of work.

now put that with what Nichols and them illude to about the brainwhashing aspects.

ohya, i have proof, carry it around in my neck all thetime, so a group of guys that you can just look at and wonder what there real agenda is, or me some sterio typical looking whatever.

gues if you look like the real thing just stepped of a movie screen it makes it harder to believe.

but if you fat, balding and have a group saying your telling the truth people believe you.

that whole lot was into brainwashing people and still is, hate to sayit.

www.youtube.com...


wish i could make a nice and neat video, edited and all, but when you got this stuff on your plate and no help in doing it you can imagine.

then put together with that having to defend myself from all the attacks done by disinfo agents.

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oops i should have made it a bit clearor, thank you for catching that. i realized that i posted somthing real nebulouse, my bad.

what i was getting at is Stewart Swerdlows Grandfather from Russia, died in Russia, executed by Russian government for Treason, Yogada was a spy for Nazi Germany, not a spy for Russia in america.

along with that the bulk of those projects were in mind controle, false memories, repressing memories.

the Montauk chair was realy a torture device with the mane purpose of de-breifing a guy like me.

i hope i am on topic, ihave not read the entire thread but i saw the list of what its about and rather than go thorugh it and dredge up all the pain and trauma i hoped i could have my say.

i am not doing this to be rebeliouse or to act a victim, more like getting to the point.

imagine having thousands of neadles electacuting you at never sites in your body.

Much of the Time Travel had to do with past lives, had also to do with genetics, as in you can travel forward and backwards based on who you are as a whole.


a guy like Col Aquino loves guys like Preston nichols and Duncan,,,,,,,,,by the way Duncan got that way because he went up against someone more adept than he.

I was taken into the Scotish rite clinic in SF CA around 1975.

up to that point i was having dreams of anceint india from the veiwpoint of Rama.


Here is an image of one of the implants in my neck, i would assume suchan implant would be put there for specific reasons, a dog tag, a way to deleat or repress memories, ETC.


So my opinion based on the fact of my personal life and other things tell me that this stuff is more a way to brainwash and controle people with frequencies.





i hope some can look past how forward i am being and understand this has been a 37 year ordeal as well as mission.

Ive met preston nichols while on the east coast in 1987, i remember his shipping container with the equiptment in it one of those big metal ones, i remember his antena aray and what he realy used it for, i remember the overcast day he had me help him cover it before it rained, the trap hed set to hit me with a dose of frequency's and repress mymemories.
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So put him with Swerdlow and what i found Stewarts Grandfather real was.
Yagoda was born in Rybinsk into a Jewish family. He joined the Bolsheviks in 1907. Contrary to the rumors invented by himself, Yagoda was never a pharmacist but in fact an apprentice engraver in Yakov Sverdlov's father's workshop
subsequently married Sverdlov's niece Ida Averbach which permitted him, after the October Revolution of 1917, to be promoted through the ranks of the Cheka (the NKVD's
en.wikipedia.org...
Genrikh Grigoryevich Yagoda (Russian: Ге́нрих Григо́рьевич Яго́да; 7 November 1891–15 March 1938), born Enokh Gershevich Ieguda (Russian: Енох Гершевич Иегуда) was a director of the NKVD, the Soviet Union's Stalin-era security and intelligence agency, from 1934 to 1936. Appointed by Joseph Stalin, Yagoda supervised the arrest, show trial, and execution of the Old Bolsheviks Lev Kamenev and Grigory Zinoviev, events that manifested the beginnings of the Great Purge.
Like many Soviet secret policemen of the 1930s, Yagoda was ultimately a victim of the Purge himself. He was demoted from the directorship of the NKVD in favor of Nikolai Yezhov in 1936, and arrested in 1937. Charged with the standard crimes of wrecking, espionage, Trotskyism, and conspiracy, Yagoda was a defendant at the Trial of the Twenty-One, the last of the major Soviet show trials of the 1930s. Following his confession at the trial, Yagoda was found guilty and shot.

i hope this helps solve some of the questions as to all of this stuff, if it does not and is way off base, deleating the posts is easy enough,




Disgrace

Initially Yagoda became People's Commissar for Post and Telecommunications. However in March 1937, he was arrested on Stalin's orders. Yezhov announced Yagoda's arrest for diamond smuggling, corruption and spying for Germany since joining the party in 1907. Yezhov even sprinkled mercury around his office, then blamed it on Yagoda trying to assassinate him. Yagoda's two Moscow apartments and his dacha contained 3,904 pornographic photos, 11 pornographic films, 165 pornographic pipes, one dildo and the two bullets that killed Zinoviev and Kamenev.[7] Yezhov took over the apartments. The charge of corruption at least was accurate. He had spent four million roubles decorating his three homes, boasting that his garden had '2,000 orchids and roses'.[8]
During the trial of Radek and Piatakov (Trial of the Seventeen), Yagoda extracted confessions from the defendants, thus revealing inadvertently that the men did not have any political differences with Stalin, a fact the Soviet state prosecutor was unable to challenge. This infuriated Stalin, as it implied that he had eliminated the defendants solely to maintain his own political power. Yagoda had already earned Stalin's enmity eight years earlier, when he had expressed sympathy for Nikolai Bukharin, whom Stalin had forced from power.
As one Soviet official put it, "The Boss forgets nothing."[9] Yagoda was found guilty of treason and conspiracy against the Soviet government at the Trial of the Twenty One in March 1938. Solzhenitsyn describes Yagoda as trusting in deliverance from Stalin even during the show trial itself:
Just as though Stalin had been sitting right there in the hall, Yagoda confidently and insistently begged him directly for mercy: "I appeal to you! For you I built two great canals!" And a witness reports that at just that moment a match flared in the shadows behind a window on the second floor of the hall, apparently behind a muslin curtain, and, while it lasted, the outline of a pipe could be seen.[10]
Yagoda was shot soon after the trial as were 3,000 of his NKVD supporters. His successor and former deputy Yezhov ordered the guards to strip Yagoda naked and beat him for added humiliation just before his execution. Yezhov himself would suffer exactly the same treatment at the order of his successor and former deputy, Lavrenti Beria, before dying by the same executioner (NKVD Chief Executioner Vasili Blokhin) just two years later.[11]
[edit]Honours and awards

This article incorporates information from the equivalent article on the Russian Wikipedia.
Order of Lenin
Order of the Red Banner, twice (1927, 1930)
Order of the Red Banner of Labour of the RSFSR (1932)

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Starred and flagged for a great and informative thread. Residents say all kinds of strange things happen there, like birds flying in circles, and wild animals charging through town. some have witnessed the old Sage Radar moving. Why would it move if the Air Station is now defunct?

Semi-Automatic Ground Environment (SAGE)

SAGE console

Air Defense Radar Stations



I have been told that my Father, whom I never saw to remember, worked there while in Naval Intelligence. I have seen pay stubs and orders, but have none to show. From my own research, the Montauk Crew originated the first computers, and worked for years on Project Rainbow.

the actual arial pictures of USS eldridge disappearing is in the movie "the orion conspiracy" at
6min 12seconds into the movie,

www.theorionconspiracy.com...

Rather than try to address different points made in this thread, I'll just throw out some food for thought.

Tesla, Kozyrev, and Higgs Bosun:
Kaluza-Klein theory shows that what we see as 3D space is actually multidimensional. Tesla said that the "ether" reacted differently to solid objects and to light, which reflects the multidimensional aspect of reality and that the different levels cause "strings" to behave differently not only due to the nature of their "vibrations" but what level of our multidimensional universe they're currently in. The research with Higgs Bosun echoes much of ether theory.

Gravity, Electricity, and Magnetism:
Einstein said that gravity was a "curvature of space". But that really refers to the analogy of a marble sitting on a cloth distorting the cloth so that it "curves". Typical flatlander analogy. As I see it, gravity is not a "curvature" but a full on 3D distortion of the ether / quantum medium, so that gravity is a matter of bouyancy. Tesla's work with the giant lightning bolts in his lab was him creating pressure differentiations within the electromagnetic levels of our multidimensional universe, keeping in mind that our model of atoms is to be collections of positive and negative electrical charges. Magnetism is a little more complicated. It's a matter of a cross dimensional flow of the quantum medium. In more politically correct terms, it's a Kaluza-Klein based cross dimensional manifestation of the Higgs Bosun Field. Thus iron filings line up within the flux fields, but don't move outside their physical existance. They just get pushed around as some level of the quantum medium moves from one point to another that to us looks like the same point in 3 dimensional space.

Special Theory of Relativity and Stargates:
Einstein shows in special theory that as something approaches the speed of light that it's relative mass increases. Now that doesn't have to mean it gains mass or that kinetic energy makes up the matter/energy difference. Rather that moving objects may cause alterations in the density of the ether / quantum medium, as per the Russian astrophysicist Kozyrev's research. Thus the amount of matter relative to the density of the quantum medium affets percieved / relative mass. If we consider that something can cause a significant distortion of the ether / quantum medium, we could conceivable push it to a breaking point.

Mercury and TV shows:
In one episode of Ancient Aliens, we see reference to an ancient text in India that describes a container of what appers to be mercury inside what is considered a spaceship. While in operation it gives off a bright light. In electronics, mercury was used in flourescent lights. When a current was passed across it, it would vaporize. The thing is that when current is passed through it, it creates an electron cascade, and not just a neat orderly flow. An electromagnetic chaos. Spinning / oscillating that electromagnetic chaos just right could conceibably create a sufficient distortion, charged particles in motion, to use as a Stargate type of transportation.

Consequences:
The problem comes in with, if we make a hole, where does the hole go? Tesla's work with projecting energy required antennas that had the same size shape and mass. Likewise, as in some video games and movies, you'd need a send and recieve resonating with each other. You screw that up, there's no telling where you might wind up. The bigger problem is, if you screw that up bad enough, you might take your neighbors with you.

Thanks for condensing it all together!

Originally posted by Assassin Hybrid
why dosent anyone just try to replicate the experiment on a smaller scale to see if it really does work... say on a metal model of a ship?

I was reading about the refraction and reflection of light using the Fresnell and Snell's law terms. The amount of light reflected is determined by whether electric currents are present in the material - why some metals are shiny and some aren't. If you could have some electric control over the refractive-index of the material, it would be possible to become invisible.

AH! now ive heard something interesting from someone i know who worked on shadow projects.. He knew things about programs i was a part of that he could not have known had he not been there... This guy was a pretty accomplished scientist who claims too have worked in project paperclip.. Anyway. What he said...

(sorry about my horrible spelling)

The eldridge was carrying a type of element that the nazi's found it was a giant ball of what appeared too be murcury.. But had reactive properties too whatever environment it came into contact with... he said that it was aboard a ship because the gravity pull against caused by the speed of the craft while on a plane caused it too expand... certain elements caused it too turn solid and completely inpenetrable... One of the tests they did it he claimed caused a blackout on europes westcoast.

While in the hull of the eldridge it began reverberating the radar waves off of the towers of long island and created a energy field in conjunction with the water causing it too phase out of 3d and into 4d .. And this is why the crew were fused into the deck.. durring the shift they didnt have mass too stay stationary.

Amazing what the United States can experiment and not tell us about

Montauk Point. A project supposedly ended in 1983.
Originating fron Darpa technical research. Run fore mindcontrol fore peace or war. Ended the cold war in 1989 and 1991. Sent from among other my community in Norway. The death place of Orderud Paust. Fore signals to St Petersburg and East Europe. In fact the signal project is continuing at this time. Fore mindcontrol of russians and soon chinese. Project re use in 1995. Can only be seen as tragic and misplaced. Almost leading to full scale war and massive sociatal instability. Also in Norway.
The project was the technical insight of big science of Brookhaven Nat Lab. Run in conjunction with UN input. Signal systems relied on electric field over distance with antenna systems. Usually sent straight eastwards or southwards at field grids. However also in curries. Many islands were used fore this since the acsess were needed in the geograhic lines.
Signals could comprise zapping sensor based systems. Mindcontrol with sain or mentally ill or damaged. Autistic people also. The results of 1989 1991 were done by more benign means. Ending in a posetive result. The more destructive handling of subject broadcasties or zappiesl have more destructive effect in the enemy. Madelene Mccann. Can be seen as the most known victim. Probebly allive today near the am transmitters of Faroe Portugal ,Valenciana Alicante or Montpellier. Beeing traksmit back to Britain. Reson her persona were involved. The high current research of Leichester University. Making Valencianas am probebal. Fore beeing 20 kms off Leichesters West East local. Without entering the obvious wiccan angle of the problem. The phoenix were largely fire provn fore electrics making oxygen. Therfore also corrotion at fore instance Point Pleassants bridge to electrify the target straight south. Havana. The project relied on powerunits and antenna. Of wich the system resonate sets the person. Near antenna on a field line. In locations were many directions can be achieved. Multi directional targetting. The reson fore the distance beeing needed from target was accumilative over distance. The project demand fore transmitties mean many mentally ill is used. Many hospitals can be sighted having antenna and links on the roof.
The use of this project becomes intense fore President Trumps ambitions of decommunistifying China. Wich mean other transmit locals are used. Other than fore Russia. Montauk beeing one with China as target since it is as far North. The project relied heavily on solar activity fore the net use of ions. Now with modern electrics meeters. Local ion supply is possible. Meaning the power will go up still more. The project has been run in sync with cerns main shootings and achievements. Wich are also largely needed fore reinforcement of the Earths magnetic field. Because of relativistic electrons from Saggitarius. The center if the galaxy. Warfare is therfore a risk beacause of intricasies of nuclear weapons design. Project Montauk. Was in all respects a distructive force fore the unlucky victims. A major succsess fore the cold war. We will have to see what it means fore China.

This is awesome dude! thank you!

Reads like computer generated gobbledegy goop or a note from my ex.

HELLO everyone how thing going? well it to me upside down every corner to me anyway folk ever you see this movie? "PROJECT ALMANAC" PG-13 I THOUGHT MATCH CASE OF MOVIE.... ENJOY IT!!!!! PEACE OUT.

This is a third hand account of the invisible ship when it was moored at a pier in the Philadelphia Navy Yard. A brand newly minted Naval Academy Grad, told his friend in my mother's car, while she drove them home. So it was within a few hours of the officer's seeing this phenomena. My mother told me as a war story, and then I jumped up at a C.A.P. meeting where the cadets watched a audio visual film, which was very celuloidal, on what would have been the lead in to a Gov't report on this event. It said at the end that further experiments were done, but of course no way did we ever get the later films.

It wasn't so much to hide from German Raiders, and the Krauts never had any battleships loose in the Atlantic. The two films were showing how the U.S. Navy worked up anti mine and anti torpedo defenses for OUR surface ships. Even putting deguassing cables around the waterlines, didn't really do it up right. Steel hulled ships still emanated tell tale magnetic fields. So the last minute of the second film was to explain how alternating fields were introduced something like cutting a sausage into links. The Navy was resetting the waterline degaussing cables, with the A.C. running perpendicularly, around the ship's hull. But none of these did squat to stop pressure mines from detecting the movement of a heavy ship overhead. They were trying to numb down magnetic mines and torpedo warheads, when the ship passed over one.
My wife's cousin worked for Bath Iron Works, until he retired a year or so ago. Years ago, he took me in a stem to stern tour of the John Paul Jones, and we found we were locked out of many rooms, that he had designed things for, back in the loft. Contractors already had locks on their products, while this Arleigh Burke Destroyer was still at it's pier, before commissioning. There's the rub. Yard contractors work from the Ways through commissioning, and on out to the Sea Trials. In the Atlantic War, it wasn't unknown for contractors and Yard Monkeys to get into fire fights with German Kriegsmarine subs. Those young Annapolis Grads worked through construction, commissioning, and sea trials so they knew everything about their ship, before sailing out into the Battle of the Atlantic.
That's why Allen's B.S. won't fly. Yes there was an invisible ship tied up at a pier at the Navy Yard. The graduate officer saw and counted the rivet heads, imprinted in the muddy Delaware River waters on the off side, away from the pier he walked down, carrying a leather valise full of paper work. Both the hollow hull and the solid rudder post were hollows in the River water. After studying what the Navy had at their Yard in 1943, my money is on the almost derelict Spanish American "Dynamite Boats", which hurled pneumatic high explosive shells into Havana. They had so much mechanical works to compress and expel air, under those sensitive shells, that there was simply no more room for anything below decks. So they just set at the Yard. But the accounts say that the Tesla equipment was above deck, near the Stern of the ship/boat.
Everything that floated was being used somehow to fight German Subs, in some way. Only those Dynamite Boats were left! Nostradamus does mention the ghost A-Bomb detonated on a wintry Jan. Friday, in 1943, some 30 miles off of Cape May, N.J., so maybe the accounts of injured crew members were juxtaposed from terrible radiation burns from a primitive Nuke on a barge, being towed over to put paid to Churchill's bane, the French Sub Pens on the English Channel. The U.S. Eldridge was right on the cusp for having a electric welded hull, so no rivet heads. It could go either way, as I've never seen a decent picture of her hull.