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The Right Wing has a new favorite Presidential Candidate

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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 02:55 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs




What is wrong with HUMANISM? We are humans. We are a tribal, social species. We have to be able to get along!!!


Because the propaganda has worked and that is just considered no good communism or hippie dippy liberal hog wash.




posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Won't work ,they make stupid decisions based on faith like Pat Robertson.
THIS is AMERICA, horror movies ,debauchery and bad popular cultures.
ANY activists won't cut it.
Christian or otherwise.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 03:20 PM
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a reply to: cavtrooper7

Sorry, but, I really don't understand what you are getting at.

Can you tell me what "won't work"? It seems like you are saying Evangelicals like Pat Robertson are a negative influence, and that stupid decisions are made by evangelical theocrats.

Is that what you think? (It is what I think, but - just checking to make sure I understood your post.)

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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs



Cruz

Where does he specifically say he wants a government Theocracy?



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


Cruz said that the only way this country can be saved is for evangelicals to rise up and vote for politicians who’ll pass legislation based upon Biblical principles.


It may not be direct, but replace Biblical and with Koranic and I bet we would be seeing people freak out.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: xuenchen


Cruz said that the only way this country can be saved is for evangelicals to rise up and vote for politicians who’ll pass legislation based upon Biblical principles.


It may not be direct, but replace Biblical and with Koranic and I bet we would be seeing people freak out.


It's well known Cruz wants a theocratic rule. He doesn't hide it at all. He was my Senator for a few years.

He doesn't have a chance in hell so its all just wasted time. He is one of the idiots that thinks the constitution was based off the bible.

It wasn't. The founders were very specific about not being a Christian nation. Plenty of autobiographical writing to read. They wanted to be able to talk to every nation.

The founders were Diest. John Locke was a Christian Diest meaning doesn't believe in the supernatural aspects of the bible but the wisdom of parables. The founders were much more cynical about Christianity in their journals and writing. The God they spoke of was the first cause. They believed he made the universe and then left it to be.

Just read a damn book. The constitution was based off of The Two Treatises of Government by Locke and Hume And Ruseau's theories of the social contract.

Anyone ever read the treaty of Tripoli? "America in no way was founded on Christian principles". In their own writing.
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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: BuzzyWigs



Cruz

Where does he specifically say he wants a government Theocracy?



The Progressives can get away with saying this because of the recent media blitz where he and Huckabee gave support to Kim Davis going up against Big Bro because of religious ideals. Never mind that Progressives are sympathetic to Islam and Sharia and are even for arming these people...Iran, Syria, whatever



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:41 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus




Never mind that Progressives are sympathetic to Islam and Sharia and are even for arming these people...Iran, Syria, whatever


You keep parroting this, when have the progessives ever defend it in the states?

Has anyone done what Davis is doing in the name of Islam and been defended?

The context would need to be an elected gov official.

Cruz has said what he wants, he wants law based on the bible.
Would you want a politician say they want law based on the koran?

And arming rebels is hardly exclusive to the left, shoot in each debate we have heard plans of arming rebels to fight Assad
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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: luthier






It's well known Cruz wants a theocratic rule.


bullcr&$!!! What you really mean is that he refuses to let secular humanism destroy what was once a moral basis for our government.

You forget (or maybe due to secular education you just didn't know), our very first President George Washington knelt in prayer before battle. Sometimes people try to defuse his devotion to God by talking about how he and others were deist, as if somehow that meant he does not believe in and pray to God.
Most of the Founding Fathers had a religion of some sort, whether a Christian denomination or Freemasonry. Many of them died for the cause of freedom.

According to this page....88 of our Founding Fathers were Episcopalian(what my parents were)


The religious affiliations of these individuals are summarized below. Obviously this is a very restrictive set of names, and does not include everyone who could be considered an "American Founding Father." But most of the major figures that people generally think of in this context are included using these criteria, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and more.

www.adherents.com...



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:49 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus




Never mind that Progressives are sympathetic to Islam and Sharia and are even for arming these people...Iran, Syria, whatever


You keep parroting this, when have the progessives ever defend it in the states?

Has anyone done what Davis is doing in the name of Islam and been defended?

The context would need to be an elected gov official.

Cruz has said what he wants, he wants law based on the bible.
Would you want a politician say they want law based on the koran?

And arming rebels is hardly exclusive to the left, shoot in each debate we have heard plans of arming rebels to fight Assad


Cruz in his own words thinks we are a Christian nation founded on Christian principles. Even though the forefathers wrote the opposite.

Big bro had nothing to do with the supreme Court ruling that it's against the law to with hold contracts from certain groups of people.

Cruz and other idiots want to rewrite history and the constitution to allow Christians to make public law based on their religious views. Perhaps reading some of the forefathers actual legislation and writing would be good for people. Especially Jefferson considering he had a little influence on the subject....
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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Don't forget they love the Pope too. It's not religious ideas they dislike; it's just any ideas that run counter to their own aims.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:51 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Parroting? And what you don't do when promoting your worldview? Just use that term for anything which you want to discount and want others to discount.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: luthier






It's well known Cruz wants a theocratic rule.


bullcr&$!!! What you really mean is that he refuses to let secular humanism destroy what was once a moral basis for our government.

You forget (or maybe due to secular education you just didn't know), our very first President George Washington knelt in prayer before battle. Sometimes people try to defuse his devotion to God by talking about how he and others were deist, as if somehow that meant he does not believe in and pray to God.
Most of the Founding Fathers had a religion of some sort, whether a Christian denomination or Freemasonry. Many of them died for the cause of freedom.

According to this page....88 of our Founding Fathers were Episcopalian(what my parents were)


The religious affiliations of these individuals are summarized below. Obviously this is a very restrictive set of names, and does not include everyone who could be considered an "American Founding Father." But most of the major figures that people generally think of in this context are included using these criteria, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and more.

www.adherents.com...



Try using a paper from the forefathers themselves.

They did not believe in the bible...


. “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

2. “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792

3. “We have abundant reason to rejoice that in this Land the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition… In this enlightened Age and in this Land of equal liberty it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the members of the New Church in Baltimore, January 27, 1793


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I have a hundred more if you want to play this game
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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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There is not a chance that Cruz will even close to a nomination. He has no charisma and only speaks to a very small amount of people.

My bet is on Carson + Trump.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 05:02 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Asking you to defend what you are saying is parroting?

That's a new one.

Care to back up what you said about people defending and praising sharia law?

Or is that me parroting again...



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

People like the pope because he stays true to the religion he preaches.



. It's not religious ideas they dislike; it's just any ideas that run counter to their own aims.


Ah and conservatives are so accepting of the ideas that counter their own?



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Don't forget they love the Pope too. It's not religious ideas they dislike; it's just any ideas that run counter to their own aims.



Yeah someone needs to remind the pope that being a Christian in America means blaming the poor and immigrants for one's problems, driving a large pickup truck with a confederate flag, being against affordable health care for the less privileged, pretending to be "pro-life" while at the same time being against food stamps for the poor, etc...

The Pope is scaring the hell out of Conservatives by preaching common sense Christian values and I find it hilarious, the political ideology that puts Jesus and Christianity in the center of everything is outraged that the biggest figure in Christianity is preaching and promoting Christian values in America.
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posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 05:18 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: luthier






It's well known Cruz wants a theocratic rule.


bullcr&$!!! What you really mean is that he refuses to let secular humanism destroy what was once a moral basis for our government.

You forget (or maybe due to secular education you just didn't know), our very first President George Washington knelt in prayer before battle. Sometimes people try to defuse his devotion to God by talking about how he and others were deist, as if somehow that meant he does not believe in and pray to God.
Most of the Founding Fathers had a religion of some sort, whether a Christian denomination or Freemasonry. Many of them died for the cause of freedom.

According to this page....88 of our Founding Fathers were Episcopalian(what my parents were)


The religious affiliations of these individuals are summarized below. Obviously this is a very restrictive set of names, and does not include everyone who could be considered an "American Founding Father." But most of the major figures that people generally think of in this context are included using these criteria, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and more.

www.adherents.com...



That's right it's called diesm.
“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.”
~Founding Father John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” (1787-88)

“I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Baptists of Danbury, Connecticut, 1802

“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

“Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual.

State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society. We have solved … the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in a speech to the Virginia Baptists, 1808

“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814,

“And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
~Founding Father James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822


Should I continue there are literally hundreds of actual not make believe historical docs on the forefathers views on religion.

Don't cry but your wrong.



posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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We are witnessing the "Obamification" of Pope Francis from the rabid right, the conspiracy theories are already popping up..charges of "Socialism", "evil communist!"

He's nothing but a New World Order puppet! etc...The right does this to everything they don't agree with when they can't come up with facts to discredit what they are so against.




posted on Sep, 27 2015 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: muse7

That was great! Elizabeth Warren was on Stephen Colbert the other night, and she believes the country's economic demise began with 'trickle down" or "Reaganomics", and I think she makes an excellent point, because the problem was the 1% didn't much let it 'trickle down". They just apparently bought 15 Million dollar yacht's instead of 3 million dollar yacht's, and bought six mansions instead of two. So yeah, it was a bust. The mulit-millionaires saw to that.

( Like that God-awful Nestle executive who wants to own all the water! God! Muhahahahaha. "All your water belongs to me" he says as he sprouts horns and a tail, and dreams about his new villa in Italy.)

Any yet Reagan is held up as the God of the Republican party. It's odd...... it's so undeserved.

Meh.



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