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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: markosity1973
You don't need the entire wreckage to investigate. If a plane crashes because the tail breaks off do you really need the cockpit and engines? What are they going to tell you?
The critical pieces of wreckage were removed and returned for the investigators.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Salander
Yes, some investigation. It reminds me of the way the 911 Commission
Ding ding ding! Gratuitous 911 reference! Don't forget to mention the Bay of Tonkin next time.
According to the preliminary report by the Dutch Safety Board, the filed flight plan called for MH17 to fly at flight level 330 (FL330) above Ukraine until the waypoint PEKIT, then climb to flight level 350.
At 12.53 hrs MH17 was asked if it could climb to flight level 350 in accordance with the filed flight plan, but they replied that they were unable to comply and requested to maintain at flight level 330. This change of plan was agreed, and other aircraft in the area were told to climb to flight level 350 to avoid a potential separation conflict with MH17.
The crew of MH17 asked to divert the flight path by 20 nautical miles due to bad weather they could see on their route. MH17 then asked if flight level 340 was available. They were told that it was not available due to the other civilian aircraft being assigned heights in order to deconflict with MH17. That is why MH17 continued on its altitude of 33,000 feet.
originally posted by: paraphi
a reply to: tommyjo
Don't let your well sourced facts get in the way of a good bit of fantasy. The Preliminary Report is a good point of reference and removes at least 60 conspiracy theories, as far as I can tell.
originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: intrptr
Yes, some investigation. It reminds me of the way the 911 Commission did its investigation--start with a conclusion and work backwards. A travesty, but so it goes in the propaganda business.
MH17 A Year Without The Truth
originally posted by: intrptr
regardless of the facts. .
Because crash reports are normally put out two or three months after a crash, right? I mean it's not normal to see them take two years or more to put one out unless they're covering something up.
originally posted by: tommyjo
originally posted by: intrptr
regardless of the facts. .
So explain why you were still relying on inaccurate facts by posting that link on the flight path?
The flight path and flight plan has been determined and agreed on by the Russians. There is no dispute and all the parties agree. So again why did you take it upon yourself to post old and inaccurate facts?
ATS, have any of you evidence of the supposed BUK rocket launch?
Almaz-Antey said it had analysed shrapnel damage and identified the missile as "9M38M1 of the Buk M1 system".
The eye witness accounts seem to suggest a completely different story to the rebel missile theory we are being told to believe.
Any WHY did the Ukranian govt shell the wreckage site?
Artillery fire sent plumes of smoke skyward near the Donetsk railway station, about 40 miles from the crash site, in what the separatists said was an attempt by government forces to enter the city, which they seized in April.
I smell a very big conspiracy here!
The longer an investigation, yes the more chance it can be manipulated.
Well it seems Russia's expert say's it was a BUK that shot down MH 17.
Almaz-Antey said it had analysed shrapnel damage and identified the missile as "9M38M1 of the Buk M1 system".
www.bbc.com...
Does that count?