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The American Psychiatric Association was Bullied into Removing Gayness from the DSM

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posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:05 PM
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There has never been a true scientific analysis to indicate whether gayness is a result of a mental disorder. Most evidence suggest a brain affect. There is no proof that gayness is genetic.

[The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), published by the American Psychiatric Association, offers a common language and standard criteria for the classification of "officially-recognized" mental disorders that all mental health professionals refer to when diagnosing patients.]

Originally listed as a "sociopathic personality disturbance" in the first edition of the DSM in 1953, homosexuality was "upgraded" to a mere "sexual deviation" in 1968 with the release of DSM-II. The new term implied a "temporary mental state" rather than an all-encompassing disorder, a change that helped remove the stigma the degenerate people faced by being labeled “disordered.” Until 1973, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) of the American Psychiatric Association. While gays were no longer able to be diagnosed in the DSM as an illness after 1973, conditions pertaining to it were not entirely removed until 1987.

The American Psychological Association never based any of it's findings about removing gays from the DSM on empirical research, it was all based on fear and political maneuvering and pressure from militant activists. The men responsible for removing homosexual behavior from the mental health DSM all thought it was wrong to do so and admitted later that they were essentially forced to do so due to political and other factors. They openly reflected on their forced decision and acknowledged that the determining reasons were not based on any actual scientific analysis or results of studies, but rather, militant gay propaganda. Not since the Nazis has a larger manipulative lie been betrayed on a people.

[See Chapter 18, page 417 of Scientific Controversies: Case Studies in the Resolution and Closure of Disputes in Science and Technology edited by Hugo Tristram Engelhardt, Arthur L. Caplan Cambridge University Press, Apr 24, 1987 (639 pages.)]

The only reason homosexuality was removed from the American Psychiatric Association's "handbook" was due to the constant pressure and guerrilla tactics from radical gay activists intimidating psychiatrists during their meetings. (See: "Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away")

In 1971, homosexual activist Frank Kameny worked with the Gay Liberation Front collective to demonstrate against the APA's convention. At the 1971 conference, Kameny grabbed the microphone and yelled, "Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a declaration of war against you." Homosexuals forged American Psychiatric Association (APA) credentials and gained access to exhibit areas in the conference. They threatened anyone who claimed that homosexuals needed to be cured.

In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed homosexuality as a mental disorder from its DSM-II manual. In 1973, when homosexuality was removed, there was a great deal of on-going controversy about the decision within the psychiatric community. This was an era in which much of academia did not want to be seen as authoritarian and upholding the cultural status quo. The issue had never been about "science", only about political prejudice posturing as "science". The fear that the APA would be stigmatized as an "establishment institution" was the primary driving factor behind the change in the DSM.

This decision was a significant victory for homosexual militant activists, and since that time, they have continued to claim that the APA based their decision on new scientific discoveries that proved that homosexual behavior is normal and should be affirmed in our culture.

The deletion of homosexuality from DSM-II and subsequent diagnostic manuals was generally seen as a triumph of science over prejudice and oppression. An examination of actual circumstances of the deletion and of the changes that it engendered shows that this view overlooks crucial points. Specifically, the received version conceals the way that deletion served a nonscientific vision of justice, as well as that postdeletion practice regarding homosexuality is inescapably political and moral. These concealments help to maintain the mental health professions' claim to scientific authority, a claim that has little basis in fact. Furthermore, the deletion represented an inadvertent application of social constructionist principles to psychotherapeutic practice, one that makes clear the pragmatic value of postmodern psychologies to contemporary psychotherapy.

Homosexual urban legends have infiltrated every aspect of our culture. The removal of homosexuality as a mental disorder has given homosexual activists erroneous credibility in our culture, and they have demanded that their sexual behavior be affirmed throughout society.

[See: Right answers, wrong reasons: Revisiting the deletion of homosexuality from the DSM. Greenberg, Gary. Review of General Psychology, Vol 1(3), Sep 1997, 256-270. dx.doi.org...]

Dr. Charles Socarides has set the record straight on how homosexuals inside and outside of the APA forced this organization to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder. This was done without any valid scientific evidence to prove that homosexuality is not a disordered behavior.

Dr. Socarides, writing in Sexual Politics and Scientific Logic: The Issue of Homosexuality writes: "To declare a condition a 'non-condition,' a group of practitioners had removed it from our list of serious psychosexual disorders. The action was all the more remarkable when one considers that it involved an out-of-hand and peremptory disregard and dismissal not only of hundreds of psychiatric and psychoanalytic research papers and reports, but also a number of other serious studies by groups of psychiatrists, psychologists, and educators over the past seventy years…"

Socarides continued: "For the next 18 years, the APA decision served as a Trojan horse, opening the gates to widespread psychological and social change in sexual customs and mores. The decision was to be used on numerous occasions for numerous purposes with the goal of normalizing homosexuality and elevating it to an esteemed status.

Note: Transsexualism is still listed as a mental illness in DSM (DSM-IV-TR 302.85 "Gender Identity Disorder" or GID).

 

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posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:06 PM
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posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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So let me see if I understand, are you saying being gay is a mental disorder?



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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Is this a disguised hate thread? I just read the title....
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posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: Anonymous007

Let me make it easy!

Giving a damn about what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their home? "Is a mental illness."! Hell, when can I get paid by the government millions for a BS study?



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:14 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I am saying that is was never properly - and scientifically - determined NOT to be a psychological disorder.



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: Anonymous007
I am saying that is was never properly - and scientifically - determined NOT to be a psychological disorder.


I was asking you directly, do you think being gay is a mental disorder?



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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Why are people so touchy about this?
So many other sexual deviations are considered mental problems, ie kids, animals. Why not gayness? It's a question worth asking. Whether you like the answer or not..



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:20 PM
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Gayness is a sexual deviant behavior by definition as it 'differs from the norm', but I don't think science has determined the cause one way or the other. My guess is it is a genetic disorder and not a mental one.



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

I don't really care what people do behind closed doors.

But I do care about what falsehoods are forced down the throats of others -- especially how children are indoctrinated into accepting a behavior as "right" and "normal".





posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Human sexual orientation is a complex trait, influenced by several genes, experiential and sociocultural factors.

There is still much to be known about the genetics of human homosexuality.

"If homosexuality is caused by genetics or prenatal conditions and one twin is gay, the co-twin should also be gay. “Because they have identical DNA, it ought to be 100%,” Dr. Whitehead notes.

But the studies reveal something else. “If an identical twin has same-sex attraction the chances the co-twin has it are only about 11% for men and 14% for women."

Nobody knows how same sex attraction develops. Many same sex attracted people do, being able to trace it to early experiences of sexual abuse, reactions to breakdowns in family relationships, exclusion from same sex peer groups, porn. Others are not used to thinking about predisposing circumstances and have no idea how their homosexual orientation developed – just as most heterosexuals have no idea how they became heterosexual. There are many paths, each relatively minor in the overall picture, but very important to those individuals whom they affect.

-- If gayness were genetic, both twin individuals would be gay. Because they are not is evidence that gayness is not determined in the genes.



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: Anonymous007

It isn't taught as 'right', just that it isn't 'wrong' to be attracted to who you are attracted too.

I guess you can say normal, but I would just say it is being taught to just be your self.



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:26 PM
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a reply to: Anonymous007

From the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders V5:
A mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior that reflects a dysfunction in the psychological, biological, or developmental processes underlying mental functioning. Mental disorders are usually associated with significant distress in social, occupational, or other important activities. An expectable or culturally approved response to a common stressor or loss, such as the death of a loved one, is not a mental disorder. Socially deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) and conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are not mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict results from a dysfunction in the individual, as described above.

Bolded the bit that matters.

Many demographics are at higher risk of having mental disorders such as 'the divorced.' 'Divorced' is not a mental disorder.

Side note: there have been several literature reviews on this topic that might be worth you having a look at. It may not convince you, but you would probably find them interesting.
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posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: Anonymous007
a reply to: seeker1963

I don't really care what people do behind closed doors.

But I do care about what falsehoods are forced down the throats of others -- especially how children are indoctrinated into accepting a behavior as "right" and "normal".




Children will always be indoctrinated by the beliefs of their parents or the teachers who teach them in school! ALWAYS! I grew up being forced to attend church EVERY Sunday in the Catholic Church, and I now no longer believe in God. I was taught sex was bad, yet now I feel, if it feels good do it.

Bottom line, when we become adults, we have many personal choices to make in forming our lives in this world. For anyone to deny others from making those choices as an adult, is someone who hasn't a clue as to the meaning of freedom.



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:27 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), published by the American Psychiatric Association, offers a common language and standard criteria for the classification of mental disorders.

Homosexuality seems to fits criterion 1 of the DSM because it is a psychological anomaly. [Occurs less than two percent of the population, and were it to exist in everybody, the existence of any species would be threatened.]

Homosexuality seems to fits criterion 2 because it is potentially reflected in behavior. [Virtually all those who identify as gay take actions.]

Homosexuality seems to fits criterion 3 of the DSM because it is generally associated with distress. [The comment board here is filled with signs of distress! Further: The American Psychological Association (APA) has reported research about LGB and mental health that suggests gays have a higher rate of some mental disorders compared to their heterosexual (straight) counterparts. They are much more likely to need psychiatric counseling.

Specifically, studies find:

~ Higher rates of major depression, recurrent depression, substance abuse (they become addicted to drugs at five times the national rate), anxiety disorders and in youth, dependency issues. They also suffer from greater levels of overall crime and violence.

~ Greater use of mental health services with males and females reporting having same sex partners.

~ Greater levels of suicidal thoughts (they commit suicide 7 times the national rate.)

Homosexuality seems to meet criterion 4 because it is not considered part of normal development in American culture. [Normal development means that all people will likely experience it directly.]

Homosexuality seems to meet criterion 5 because it is often associated with an impairment in important areas of social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning. [Does the behavior direct individuals to take a course of action that they otherwise would not take?]

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So, I guess to answer the question directly, homosexuality is likely part personality disorder.

Others surmise that it is the result of child abuse or neglect in dysfunctional environments of school or family or both. Many gays were sensitive children and cannot acknowledge their homosexuality because of the powerful denial that comes with victimization (shame, guilt, anger, etc.) Sometimes the abuse comes from older siblings, or from bullying at school. Sometimes the result of Narcissistic possessive "smothering" mothers, or neglectful dissociated Borderline mothers. Regardless of the cause, gays need to understand their childhood of chronic traumatic stress in order to process it and prevent ongoing relationship trauma.



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: seeker1963

Who is not allowing adults to make their own choices?

Where has that issue been brought up in this thread?



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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Plagiarism again, your opening paragraph from this site

disqus.com...

You need to read the T&Cs bud, all your posts in the other thread were copied and pasted as your to bone idol to write your own posts and you've been called out, so you carry on with with copy and pasted rhetoric in your own thread.

You won't last long here bud



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: Anonymous007
So, I guess to answer the question directly, homosexuality is likely part personality disorder.


I see, so if one person is attracted to another person of the same sex they have a 'partial personality disorder'.

Have fun with this thread.



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: Anonymous007
a reply to: seeker1963

Who is not allowing adults to make their own choices?

Where has that issue been brought up in this thread?



Calling people who feel they are gay a mental disorder? How is that not taking away their choice on how they live their lives?

You would probably be horrified at night realizing how many people are bi sexual, whether they are out of or in the closet.
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posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: Anonymous007

I fail to see why what two consenting adults do in the bedroom should be considered a mental illness, if you really think that homosexual acts can only be the result of mental disorder than you've spent some very sheltered or very short time on the internet. There are frightening things that straight couples do to each other for fun that most people would find utterly shocking and disturbing BUT to say that those people are mentally deranged or disturbed is a stretch.

Even if, and it's a big huge never-gonna-happen IF it was proven to be the result of a mental disorder said disorder would be declared benign and there'd be no need to treat it because there are plenty of well adjusted gay folks (and plenty of perfectly miserable straight ones).



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