originally posted by: Verum1quaere
a reply to: ladyvalkyrie
pregnancy itself is not that hard… this reality is one of consequences for free will actions… one way or another there will be a consequence…
the smart and correct this to do is give birth and give the baby over to adoption…
otherwise, as we now know, they will use your baby for parts and put aborted cells in foods, vaccines etc, essentially cursing the rest of us…
this issue is about responsibility.
PREGNANCY ITSELF IS NOT THAT HARD???????? Are you out of your freakin' mind????? And how many times have you been pregnant???? I've been pregnant
twice. Both totally normal, healthy pregnancies. I went from 130 to 200 lbs. I suffered through morning sickness, swollen feet an ankles, sciatica.
Both times I went through about 13 hours of miserable labor only to be unsuccessful and end up having emergency c-sections- my life and the lives of
my babies were at risk. I currently have a ventral hernia that needs surgery to fix and my feet are permanently a size bigger with fallen arches
because of the Relaxin hormone. You can't lift over 25 lbs. You can't drink, can't smoke, can't take most meds- even over the counter. Women are
fired for being pregnant. Unemployed women are discriminated against when it comes to hiring.
Then there's the cost. We're talking about doctor visits monthly ($140 a pop or $3500 for a midwife). Prenatal vitamins every day. Ultrasounds
($130 a pop both times I needed 2). And about $10,000 for a delivery and hospital stay. Even with insurance I ended up paying about $2000-$3000 each
time. And there's added costs, such as the last time when I slipped on ice at 8 months pregnant and had to see a chiropractor every week. $70 a pop
and I had to travel an hour to see one that specialized in prenatal care.
And in case you missed my other post, this was me about a week before I had my baby boy:
Does that look remotely comfortable to you? See those boots I'm wearing? Those are the only ones that would fit. I could barely get them on, and it
cut off my breath when I tried. I couldn't reach my own feet to tie shoe laces. I had to get someone to cut my toenails for me because I couldn't
And those were normal, healthy pregnancies.
And what if a woman really wants to keep the baby, but knows there's no way she can do it on her own? You think it's no big deal to go through all
that and just hand it over to a stranger? It's much easier physically and emotionally to end it early. Plus, adoption isn't always an option. I had
a friend who was dating a guy for 8 months. He 'accidentally' on purpose got her pregnant. At first she was thrilled because they had talked about
marriage etc. As soon as she told him the news he was all, "I'm not marrying you." She told him child care would be about $200 a week and he goes,
"Well I'm not paying for that we'll have to find something cheaper." News flash, there is none cheaper. She was devastated. She knew a couple that
was having fertility issues. She really wanted to keep the baby, but knew she couldn't afford it, so she was going to let them adopt. Then jerkwad
dad said he would never sign off on adoption and in fact would take her to court to take the baby for himself and make HER pay child support (which is
what his dad did to his mom, which created such a f*cked up individual, which would just have continued the cycle). So then she told him she had an
abortion but was still going to go through with the pregnancy/adoption secretly...well, he threatened to stalk her. "I know where you work, I know
where you live." Finally, she ended up getting an abortion for real because this douche had backed her into a corner.
Women permanently damaged by having an abortion? Most women aren't thrilled about the decision, but they know it's for the best and have no regrets.
And how many women regret having the baby, and resenting that baby? And how many women regret giving the baby up for adoption? There's no way to
measure this, but I'd be willing to bet that the latter 2 far outnumber the first one.
Let's talk about real damage shall we?
Maternal mortality (death due to childbirth) annually: 800
Mortality due to abortion complications annually: 12
The 'smart and correct thing to do'....um, your opinion buddy. No one should have to live by your opinion.
And once again....all this Satan and blood sacrifice talk??? Seriously this is the stupidest theory I've ever heard in my life. So there's ONE
attention seeking nutjob that claims all this crap, then it's regurgitated around pro-life and Christian websites. And you believe it? You think
it's an epidemic? He was lured into Satanism by Bloody Mary and pinball machines. Plus, by his own admission, the ritual was performed in a farmhouse
not an actual clinic. Then he goes on to say it does happen in clinics too. And it's not just Satanists, it's also Wiccans? Ummm...Wiccans don't
believe in blood sacrifice so that's just Christian everyone-else-is-a-barbaric-pagan propaganda. And by his own admission they have to do rituals,
chanting and such. You don't think a woman going to an abortion clinic would notice a bunch of Satanists gathered around her chanting while she was
getting the procedure?
Maybe I'm missing something, but this whole rumor links back to this one guy. There's not multiple people coming forward and it's not reported by any
reputable source, just repeated by Christian websites and blogs.
Anyone who believes the whole Satan angle, please send me a PM, I've got some ocean front property in Oklahoma I'd like to sell.