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Most homosexuality is a choice

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posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: Jay-morris

Almost every choice you make is unconsciously done. Look at the links I've posted.


No it isn't...

our choices are made by motivation and basic needs.


www.choicetheory.com...


alcoholrehab.com...



edit on 25-9-2015 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)




posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: Jay-morris

We don't learn? That's a ridiculous statement. I already showed you were far into the wrong. Your reasoning is so easy to see through. It hurts to even look. 500 years? You have to be kidding me. Which species is learning at a faster rate?

This isn't logical, it's emotive and ignorant.


Did you actually read what I said? Yes, we are advancing technology wise, but we are still primitive in many other ways. Just look at the world around you!

How have we advanced in that aspect? Please tell me because I just don't see it!



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: TheBandit795
a reply to: Jay-morris

Almost every choice you make is unconsciously done. Look at the links I've posted.


No it isn't...

our choices are made by motivation and basic needs.


www.choicetheory.com...


alcoholrehab.com...




Thank you for pointing that out
This theory is absolutely ridiculous!



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 02:35 PM
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originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Sorry to use a peodephile...but it is the first obvious example that comes to mind. Considering the the first statement...if a person is attracted to children and wants to have sex with them but DOESN'T...by choice...are they a pedophile?


YES, they are. Pedophilia is based on an attraction or desire to be with children. Just because you don't do it, doesn't mean the attraction isn't there. Maybe they don't engage in inappropriate behavior with minors, but they watch related porn instead. Obviously there are tons of other issues with pedophilia like harming children, so I loathe the comparison to 2 consenting adults having sex, but it does sort of bring the point home. Homosexuality itself is not a choice. Engaging in sex is a choice, whether straight, gay, bi or tri. But obviously nobody is going to choose to have sex with somebody they are not attracted to unless they are paid for it or forced into it.



pedophilia
noun, Psychiatry.
1.
sexual desire in an adult for a child.


from dictionary.reference.com

Likewise:




homosexuality
noun
1.
sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex.


It's not just about the act, it's about the desire.

Now, bringing this back to the OP, is there a fine line of where somebody is attracted to minors? What if somebody is attracted to minors but has sex with adults? Does that make them not a pedophile? Of course not.
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posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 02:35 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: Skyfloating

I think you make a very good point. I am one of the people you are talking about. I had a whole thing written about my story but it didn't post so here is the short version.(kinda)

When I was little I liked boys and girls, I was told those who like the same sex have no place in heaven. It puts a fear in you. I dated a boy when I was 14, everything was fine until he became irate that I wasn't ready for sex. It wasn't that exact moment that was when I decided to not date boys but a little bit later when I met a girl who made me ready to express that side of me. It was easier to just say I was a lesbian, no hurting hearts when denying boys requests to 'go out' and the best part: no pressure to have sex, no fear of becoming pregnant and 'ruining my life', no worries about being used and dumped. I was never made fun of or picked on, although as a straight little girl I was.... It gave me strength and the ability to be a real person, walk in another direction, see from a different perspective.

When I was ready to experience heterosexual sex I chose who it was with. I was 19 and he was 20, we had gone to school together and he was a friend. A hot friend. Anyway it was shocking, I enjoyed it and I decided it still wasn't worth the risks I was protecting myself from. But I couldn't shake the thought. As a lesbian we have toys and things to help ourselves (as women in general). When I went to Italy for school at 21 - I let it loose and I spread my wings. I came home 'straight'. I finally just felt comfortable, I also had so much fun being submissive and feminine that I was no longer ok with being with women.

You never think about things reversed too often. Think about it, I had labeled/identified myself as straight to bi and then as a lesbian for about 5 years. I had to come out as straight to everyone I knew. I thought I would lose friends because we all built our friendship on the idea of a gay community. -> Just like there is ew 2 guys kissing!? there is ew straight people kissing?!?! GROSS!

I was supported luckily and not abandoned by people who I did care about. But just like transgendered not meant to be in the body they were born in. None of us were technically.... I think that if there are cats out there who fetch and think they're a dog etc.. than anything is possible. It actually makes me think hard about reincarnation. Like we just fill in a time slot, whichever body is ready in that moment we slip into... way off base right? But I think past lives are more evolutionary than science in figuring this type of character trait really is what it is..... I am very happy to read that I am not alone in these thoughts.



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

HELL YES THEY ARE!
edit on 25-9-2015 by yourtoxicfantasy because: replied to wrong person,,, still getting the hang of this



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 02:41 PM
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posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: Skyfloating

I wrote my post before reading the others... I cannot believe what # they are talking. I APPLAUD you! Way to make people uncomfortable and get them thinking!! Those who bash have not opened their minds and those who are thanking you for simply giving your opinion in such a sarcastic way have not even unlocked the door to their minds let alone seen what power could be in there. They all say things that give me the impression that they want us to believe that they think with their hearts and are defending people. And I'm sure they are, homosexuality is a personal topic. But if they were truly here for the positivity or even to put you in your place they would have thought out argumentative statements instead of those knee-jerk responses that seem so common. You said nothing wrong. You said nothing negative. You kept it pretty neutral and had some facts along with all those opinions of yours.

Like I said before. I just joined and I know this is an open place with room for many thoughts and ideas. But I can not understand how or why people who would join a philosophical community (that claims to be progressive) yet THEY CHOOSE to type all this 'hate' about you because you spoke your mind. No one has to answer people!! If you don't like it don't get involved, but to push this negativity???? I thought I joined a more intelligent group than that.



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 03:17 PM
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Why does anyone care whether it's a choice - or genetics - or CIA mind control - or natural selection - or demons - or whatever else.

I fail to understand how someone else being gay could ever actually affect your life. Besides having someone around who is really good at decorating and party planning, of course.

Perhaps homophobia is actually just denial of a persons own homosexual urges mixed with jealousy.... That would be the only semi-rational excuse for this kind of nonsense.



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 03:33 PM
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a reply to: systemic.aberration

but....but....


but it's contagious!!!

........Oh, wait..... No, that's influenza and chicken pox I'm thinking of. And Ebola. nm then



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

The level of Gayness that is contagious depends on how you come into contact with us.. if we Breath on you.. just a little Gay, if we Touch you.. almost full on Gay



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Yes it is and I've posted scientific evidence that supports it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 04:18 PM
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originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: BuzzyWigs

The level of Gayness that is contagious depends on how you come into contact with us.. if we Breath on you.. just a little Gay, if we Touch you.. almost full on Gay

OH noes! I am terrified now! My husbands boss is transgender and he has several co-workers who are either gay or transgender, and he even has one coworker who is bi-gender (Yes, that is a thing).

He is going to catch a sexual deviation illness isn't he? *Throws hands up in the air* That's it, I should just end this relationship now, because OMG, what if he brought it home to me?

Note: For those who's sarcasm meters are broken, this ranks at 100 on a sarcasm scale of 1-100. Well, not the part about his boss and coworkers, but the rest is pure sarcasm.



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: Skyfloating

i agree with you 100%. i work with several women who were previously married and had children with men, but when the man did them wrong, they stopped trusting all men and just switched to women only. and they will openly admit it was a choice for them.



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 04:36 PM
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originally posted by: systemic.aberration
I fail to understand how someone else being gay could ever actually affect your life.


We're all connected. Everything we do affects others around us.



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: Skyfloating
I believe

oh boy...


that most homosexuality is a choice and most were not "born that way". I say this based neither on science nor religion

you dont say...yes, belief often flys in the face of science..as its a belief (what you have when no science is available or actively ignored)


I find it unsettling that this view is deemed "controversial" and "unscientific".

Well most beliefs are actually, but especially about other people..giant swaths of people
I digress, lets hit some points


two lesbians

if they even started a relationship with you, they werent strictly lesbian, they were bisexual, there is no debate here.
imagine if you will a man asking to have sex with you and you accepting. would you say you, as a (presumably) straight man entertain this notion at all?
no...
my best (online) friend since 2005 is a woman who claims herself a lesbian..she isn't. she is in a lesbian relationship and has been for almost her whole life, but she also desires men now and then.
she is bisexual..just with preference leaning towards women (everyone has preference)


Here is where I dismiss the rest of what you wrote with some hard science
Gay brain structure
more of the same
I could go on and on, but those two should be enough

I think you are noticing more how bisexuality can be often confused for homsexuality..even by supposed homosexuals



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 05:00 PM
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originally posted by: SaturnFX
you dont say...yes, belief often flys in the face of science..as its a belief (what you have when no science is available or actively ignored)


There actually is scientific research which concludes that almost all choices are made up to 7 seconds before the person is even aware of it.




Here is where I dismiss the rest of what you wrote with some hard science
Gay brain structure
more of the same
I could go on and on, but those two should be enough


Brain structure is not set in stone. It can and does change because of neuroplasticity.

I think you are noticing more how bisexuality can be often confused for homsexuality..even by supposed homosexuals



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 05:57 PM
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a reply to: calstorm

I know it's a thing, i'm Genderfluid


I believe it's too late, you are infected.. there is no cure, they tried AIDS and it worked for a while, but now people are finding ways to not get it or cure it... so nopes you are infected for life now



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 06:09 PM
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To the OP. I disagree with you.

If you are single, I challenge you.

Do some reseach. Call it science.

Choose to be gay for a short period of time.

And it doesn't have to be a full commitement that includes
homosexual relations.

Just make a conscious choice to be attracted to someone
of your own sex...

I will be interested on how easy it was for you to
consciously switch between hetero and homo.

Because I find it to be somewhere between VERY DIFFICULT
and NOT POSSIBLE.




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