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Now we are being FORCED by the EU to take people no matter what we voted..

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posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:33 AM
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With heavy heart I decided to make this thread, I'm totally aware that the migrant issue is raw but this is more about control and bullying via the EU agenda. With the increased number of unverified migrants piling over borders it really should be up to the country of if or how many they take and be able to apply a secure filtering system to it, but I'm afraid the EU have their own idea's.

Here's a link to a page on liveleak for a video I cannot embed because the version on Youtube is messed up. Its showing the exact way migrants are simply storming countries.

Migrants storming Austria (verified by sign posts)

The EU has now forced EU countries to take these people but not by standard democratic voting, its using QMV aka qualified majority voting where voting by the bigger countries over rules everyone else.

Here's a quote from Nigel Farage


"This law now has to go back to the same European Council that last week rejected the very concept of burden-sharing. So you may think they will simply refuse it again. To think such things is to gravely underestimate the fanaticism and chicanery that lie deep at the heart of the EU project. They will be able if they choose to push this measure through under a system known as qualified majority voting which effectively means that the big countries can outvote the smaller Eastern European states"


Its part of an article here

Briebart

So now thanks to Angla M we are being forced to take people simply based upon her HUGE mistake / plan and amongst these people there are unwanted, unsafe people let alone the clear verified fact that most are not even Syrian and amongst them is a huge number simply looking for a wealthy country to fleece.

Look at Sweden, Norway, France etc etc where people have arrived with no intention to work and are heavily radical and plan to change these countries. This can happen is the numbers are high enough and take a look, the numbers are happening as I type.

So, thanks to rigged voting and who knows what agenda the EU that we are told is so important to us is likely going to poison our culture and eventually bankrupt most parts of the very systems that these people come to abuse. As said, this is about bullying, fraud, denial of secure filtering and utter madness.
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posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:37 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly and cannot really add anymore to what I've already said on other threads. It will not end well for either side



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:43 AM
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The USSR used to do the exact same thing moving minorities to regions they deemed most appropriate without the consent of the people being moved or the host region/nation. I feel really bad for those Eastern European nations who went through that hell only to suffer this.



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:43 AM
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totally wrong suggestion...!
the EU is forced to take refugy's couse USA interrests in Syria.!
USA started the war on Assad.... let them solve the problem
just like guantanomo prison...
USA illegally collected the terrorist all over the world ....locked them up in Cuba...
and now they force there allieds to take them over...
the SCAM !



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:49 AM
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Sad but true...

I'm not anti taking people but lets do it with common sense and protect both the economy and the people already here. The simple issue is that the media refuses to show exactly what is happening with these people, there's too much feel good heart string pulling while trying to attach a guilty conscience if you say you think its too much and unchecked.

To those that get sucked in by that then I'm sorry for you, I don't want to see kids dying but doing what Merkel did utterly made sure it will happen on a mass scale. I'm the same with the people who say "but the attacks have been from your own people in the UK", yes indeed so why actually invite in people from abroad to help them out.

But this kicking our door in and forcing us to take people against the democratic process just says all this will INDEED end badly for all of us, including the US who are being taken for a ride by John Kerry forcing unknowns upon them. And if there's one place Radical Islam would love to take partial control of its the US.

So there you have it people, you can vote but that's the only thing you can do, tick a ballot sheet, beyond that you decide nothing. Its not worked well in the past but now its literally going to be the death of you if these people get organised.

Thanks politicians and non voted in EU stormtroopers.....I hope the back handers were worth it..



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:49 AM
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So what she planned has come to be. And people said she was stupid. Fair play to her for knowing how the system works.



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:51 AM
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a reply to: ressiv

Why do you believe America should or would act in your best interests? The EU is a competitor and whether it's sanctions with Russia due to the US backed coup on their border or instability sending millions of migrants your way it all helps to weaken the competitor the EU is. However why blame the US? Other than Czech, Hungary, Slovakia and Romania your own governments agreed to this. It's not Americas fault you are stupid.


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posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: Mclaneinc

The propaganda has worked so well regarding this crisis that everyone is talking about the refugees and the host countries intentions to take them.

The propaganda has worked so well regarding this crisis that everyone is talking about the refugees and whether they are ISIS or innocent or a mixture of both.

The propaganda has worked so well regarding this crisis that everyone is talking about the refugees and consequently ignored the elephant in the room.

The countries and their immediate geographical neighbours from whence they derive have been given a free pass and western nations have had this mass exodus thrust upon them.

This is not coincidence, it is by design and it is the way that the United Nations core policies of wealth redistribution will be thrust upon the planets first world countries - they will be forced to pay for this by hook or by crook.

AND the countries and their immediate geographical neighbours from whence these refugees derive from have been given a free pass, they also happen to NOT be first world countries.

Now, get back to your ipad download, there's shopping to be done before the X-Factor starts at 8.00pm.

This is the dawn of the New World Order - you said it in your title - BY FORCE, you will comply.



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 05:58 AM
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*looks up*
*looks around*

oh, its another one of the "why didn't they stay in their cozy refugee-camps in lebanon!?"-threads. Is it the third or fourth this day?

Now with the twist that all of the refugees came only because A. Merkel has promised them a better life, and the other countries are steaming that Germany doesn't want to take all refugees in.

Hi, welcome to the EU. Its a community. Who only wants to pick the cherries might consider leaving.

*looks back down*



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 06:00 AM
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originally posted by: ressiv
totally wrong suggestion...!
the EU is forced to take refugy's couse USA interrests in Syria.!
USA started the war on Assad.... let them solve the problem
just like guantanomo prison...
USA illegally collected the terrorist all over the world ....locked them up in Cuba...
and now they force there allieds to take them over...
the SCAM !


Its another point but yes its a scam, I'm looking at it from my own POV re my thread, I'm British, born in Northern Ireland and had to leave it at 6 dues to religion (oh yes, religion, always good for violence), so we came to England, I later married my wife who's Muslim but from a NORMAL NON RADICAL family hence I was allowed to marry her and we live with our daughter. Now we have been 15yrs on the council housing list awaiting a flat, there's a 17yr waiting list for the people already here in my borough and its a national problem of low housing stock that we cannot supply to people of all races and religions already here let alone the poor souls who have to live rough YET we are being made to take total unknowns with as much as 90% uncertainty of where they come from let alone their abilities and feelings towards the UK and we are going to put them WHERE?

What percentage will work?

What do we know of their religious beliefs, are they radical?

What intelligence do they have, will they be employable?

Will they even bother to learn English?

Will they integrate?

I can only look at Europe as a whole to see what is happening there and from our own borders as to the issues we continue to have from an economic viewpoint and the clear attempt to change our culture. Will more people solve this or make it even worse..

You decide but its pretty clear to most..

Help the needy, scan the rest and choose..



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 06:08 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
*looks up*
*looks around*

oh, its another one of the "why didn't they stay in their cozy refugee-camps in lebanon!?"-threads. Is it the third or fourth this day?

Now with the twist that all of the refugees came only because A. Merkel has promised them a better life, and the other countries are steaming that Germany doesn't want to take all refugees in.

Hi, welcome to the EU. Its a community. Who only wants to pick the cherries might consider leaving.

*looks back down*



One, its actually a thread about be non democratic, as for it being a community, think again, this vote wasn't done by the 'community, it was done by select countries over everyone who agreed or didn't.

So please revise your point on the thread and the stance of the EU, its not correct either way..

As for cherry picking, yes, after you have helped the truly in deed yes, cherry pick, its the best method..

And please decide to avoid the elephant in the room, ie the Saudis etc who take so little refugee's in its obscene and throw some money at the situation which most likely never makes it down to the people that need it. They have the area, the facilities ie empty luxury tents standing vacant, the money and the ability to offer these people a non transition of culture.

But yet they don't, and the reasons are, they don't want them because they don't want a change in their society and from a religious POV, helping to create a Radical caliphate is part of the radical agenda so letting them fill Europe is part of that.

Are you sure you are looking up and down or have you still got the sleeping eye protector on?



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 06:15 AM
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a reply to: ManFromEurope

Just noticed you are German, do you actually agree with what Merkel has done?

Opening the tap and promising pretty much unlimited places and then within days saying the country cannot cope, pretty cruel to the alleged needy migrants..

Was the plan just to spread these people over Europe?

The sad thing here is that the very people's of these countries who didn't agree with the military interventions (for want of a better word) just don't get a choice, many agree with taking needy people whom are genuine and want to offer help but there's simply no way to have any certainty who is who, we are being forced to take people and when we take them and find out the wrongs ones we will be forced by the EU to keep them by bogging us down in human rights issues.

And yes, if you don't want the EU choices, I agree...Ask most British folk, you would get your answer but hey, neither you are I are given the choice...

That's the point of the thread..



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 06:17 AM
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I think at the very least the NSA has dirt on Merkel and possibly many other EU leaders and business. It's interesting how the Volkswagen scandal broke now. Coincidence I'm sure. Maybe even childless Merkel who may have been assumed to care more about herself than the future of Europe was having second thoughts and needed to be shown the full extent of the damage that could be done by the information the NSA has gathered.

The recent Polish government scandal that caused 3 ministers to resign is also interesting timing as previously they were against the plan but somehow changed their minds almost overnight. I do wonder why.

After a telephone conversation with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the White House said "the two leaders agreed on the need for a Europe-wide solution in which all European member states accept their fair share of refugees."

Apparently the fair share for the oil rich gulf states who are funding this conflict and the rest of the world is 0. Interesting.

www.telegraph.co.uk...
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posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: Mclaneinc

You are not a democratic country and you are not a sovereign country since joining the EU. You Socialist punks always want another layer of Government to whisper in your ear and make you feel special and give you things for free that you haven't earned, instead of creating it for yourselves. It's because even though you always whined about your Kings and rulers, you loved having them because you were given what was needed instead of making what you wanted.

[SNIPPED]

Don't look to the United States to save you again. It's days are few. The locks on the Trojan horses have been flipped, and the doors will soon open to the tsunami of destruction.

*** ALL MEMBERS *** Ending Rudeness, Hate, Bigotry: Getting Back to Basics

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posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 06:44 AM
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It is fast coming time for a new independence day. Independence from tyrannical governments.



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 07:12 AM
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With heavy heart I decided to make this thread


Yes that heart must be so heavy, with all the bandwagon jumping and paranoia that has been floating about lately. Not all of these folk are the enemy, there are folk fleeing a conflict that was created by people that has little regard for them. Has Russia accepted any refugees? Of course not because they are in cahoots with the Syrian regime. Has the US offered to take it's fair share of refugees? Of course not because they helped create the crisis.



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 07:15 AM
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originally posted by: KEACHI
a reply to: Mclaneinc

You are not a democratic country and you are not a sovereign country since joining the EU. You Socialist punks always want another layer of Government to whisper in your ear and make you feel special and give you things for free that you haven't earned, instead of creating it for yourselves. It's because even though you always whined about your Kings and rulers, you loved having them because you were given what was needed instead of making what you wanted.

You better realize that you are being invaded and it is time to engage the enemy and completely destroy every single living person which is Muslim, or you die; and the products of rape which will be your descendants will spit upon your grave because you were against them.

Don't look to the United States to save you again. It's days are few. The locks on the Trojan horses have been flipped, and the doors will soon open to the tsunami of destruction.


So you are suggesting genocide?

That is disturbing to say the least. That kind of makes you the same as ISIS. Ever considered that?



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 07:17 AM
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originally posted by: Thecakeisalie
a reply to: Mclaneinc



With heavy heart I decided to make this thread


Yes that heart must be so heavy, with all the bandwagon jumping and paranoia that has been floating about lately. Not all of these folk are the enemy, there are folk fleeing a conflict that was created by people that has little regard for them. Has Russia accepted any refugees? Of course not because they are in cahoots with the Syrian regime. Has the US offered to take it's fair share of refugees? Of course not because they helped create the crisis.







Inn all fairness Russia has been taking hundreds of thousands of refugees from Ukraine, so they are doing their fair share of helping.



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 07:32 AM
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I am a white skinned person who grew up around others of my kind and gradually grew to accept the diversity around me. It took some time, but eventually my eyes were opened to a future without duality of us vs them. Eventually I accepted the fact that we are all one people, I think with time the rest of the world will come to accept a similar idea.

I think the intergration of the different cultures will be good for Europeans. People cling to thier ideas of what being European or American are.

I think we are headed for a global society that allows all types of people to flourish. The current ideas of what are as people and races will change in the future.

I think its all going to go away the various definitions that make each country unique will gradually blend into a gray area of similarity until we arent able to tell one country or people from another.

This will continue on various levels throught our society pushing the message that we are all one people.

Its just an idea I welcome the change.
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posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 07:35 AM
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I think at the very least the NSA has dirt on Merkel and possibly many other EU leaders and business. It's interesting how the Volkswagen scandal broke now. Coincidence I'm sure.


Well considering the fact that the VW scandal has it's roots in it's US division the fingers cannot be pointed on neither nations but has to fall upon the individuals responsible.

Toyota, Lancia, etc; they have all been blamed for faulty products but it was never a question of sovereignty, it was a question of faulty manufacturing.




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