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Is Sanders part of the establishment or is the Dem establishment that far left?

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posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 04:58 PM
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the democratic establishment/liberal press is not going after Sanders like republican establishment/press is going after Trump. Which means sanders is in the establishment or the establishment is sooo far left, that people like Clinton, Biden, O'Malley are to conservative for them.




posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:06 PM
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Lmfao. It means Sanders has yet to make himself out to be 10% of the asshole Trump is coming off as. Simple.



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:08 PM
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Yeah, pretty sure the establishment will back the guy who want's to exponentially grow it.
You are dead on in my opinion.



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:08 PM
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He is a career politician. He still seems far-left for the Dems, but the entire party is moving to the left and the Republicans move further and further to the middle or at least what WAS the middle.

The entire country is being dragged to the Progressive side of things due to the brainwashing of the younger generation in our liberal controlled education system and a left leaning mainstream media.

Bernie's popularity is a natural progression as the world moves towards centralized, totalitarian control and the inevitable loss of personal liberty that accompanies that movement.



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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a reply to: thinline

Yeah the negative press Trump gets is because he seems to be unable to speak for more then 2 min with out personally attacking someone.

And then just speaking generalities about great this and good that and he is going to make it happen.



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: lightedhype
Lmfao. It means Sanders has yet to make himself out to be 10% of the asshole Trump is coming off as. Simple.


I don't mind an asshole for president. It is a liar that I can't abide.



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Bernie has a Nordic dream for the states, is that your idea of a totalitarian nation?



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:31 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

Yeah but that got Obama elected



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:33 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
He is a career politician. He still seems far-left for the Dems, but the entire party is moving to the left and the Republicans move further and further to the middle or at least what WAS the middle.

The entire country is being dragged to the Progressive side of things due to the brainwashing of the younger generation in our liberal controlled education system and a left leaning mainstream media.

Bernie's popularity is a natural progression as the world moves towards centralized, totalitarian control and the inevitable loss of personal liberty that accompanies that movement.


I think you nailed it.

It isn't about taking care of our country and founding principles any more but more of a push towards globalization. Look at the EU and the sovereignty of each country over there. It is now a collective by each nation to appease the whole.



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: thinline
the democratic establishment/liberal press is not going after Sanders like republican establishment/press is going after Trump. Which means sanders is in the establishment or the establishment is sooo far left, that people like Clinton, Biden, O'Malley are to conservative for them.


The left never criticizes their own.

After reading this.

No Really—What’s the Difference Between a Democrat and a Socialist

And couldn't even answer.

The obvious answer is there is no difference.

Meaning Sanders is ESTABLISHMENT.
edit on 19-9-2015 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:36 PM
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Call me back when Bernie says half the disgusting things trump had said.



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:38 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Hey I can find ridiculous articles too!
www.politicususa.com...



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:39 PM
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a reply to: Sremmos80

I have found some pushback and even specific counter arguments to Sanders platform.

The Scandinavian Socialism Argument Debunked
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posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:40 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: neo96

Hey I can find ridiculous articles too!
www.politicususa.com...


Really saying Chris Mathews is 'ridiculous' ?

Finally we agree on something.



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:41 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Sremmos80

I have found some pushback and even specific counter arguments to Sanders platform from progressives.

7 Charts Show the Socialist Hellscape America Would Be Under Bernie Sanders


Ain't funny how Sanders practically has 'Occupy Wall Streets' entire platform ?



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: greencmp

...You know that is satire right?

I mean did you look at the charts?



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Sremmos80
a reply to: greencmp

...You know that is satire right?

I mean did you look at the charts?


Yes, my copy buffer was misfilled.




posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

I read you post and was struck by your thoughts that the "left is moving farther left and the Republicans are moving farther to the middle."

I find that very interesting. While Bernie may be more to the left, I think the Republican has a faction of very far right folks in the Tea Party. Bernie's popularity may very well be in reaction to that far left, as well as the Establishment giving Banks free reign and high fives while the rest of us suffer the consequences for their actions.

Anyway, I thought the right was moving farther right... lol! Perception is everything!

peace,
AB



posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: greencmp
a reply to: Sremmos80

I have found some pushback and even specific counter arguments to Sanders platform.

The Scandinavian Socialism Argument Debunked




an. 14 (Bloomberg) -- Scandinavia, which attracted investors during Europe’s sovereign debt crisis, is now coming under international scrutiny on concern that record household debt levels from Denmark to Sweden aren’t sustainable.


www.bloomberg.com...

And Sanders, and his supporters want have that model over here!



In Denmark, consumers owe their creditors 321 percent of disposable incomes, a world record that the Paris-based OECD said in November demands a policy response. I


Just say no to Sanders.
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posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: greencmp

Oh so the guy who doesn't want a full blown socialist state is modeling his ideas after places that are not full blown socialist states?

Huh it is like people have been trying to say that all along...

No the countries aren't perfect but neither are we.




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