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Scientists Ask Obama To Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics.

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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 07:25 AM
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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 07:58 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

We could start with Al Gore and George Soros. It would be interesting to see what gains they made from carbon credits.


Here's a start ....



Marketing Climate Alarm:

Of course this carbon regulation is posited upon saving the Earth based upon a “consensus within the scientific community that increasing the global temperature by more than 2oC will likely cause devastating and irreversible damage to the planet.” And where it comes to promulgating and capitalizing upon carbon-climate-crazed sociopolitical pressure, you would be hard-pressed to find two better authorities.

Gore and Blood, the former chief of Goldman Sachs Asset Management (GSAM), co-founded London-based GIM in 2004. Between 2008 and 2011 the company had raised profits of nearly $218 million from institutions and wealthy investors. By 2008 Gore was able to put $35 million into hedge funds and private partnerships through the Capricorn Investment Group, a Palo Alto company founded by his Canadian billionaire buddy Jeffrey Skoll, the first president of EBay Inc. It was Skoll’s Participant Media that produced Gore’s feverishly frightening 2006 horror film, “An Inconvenient Truth”.

Making A Killing On Anti-Carbon Investment Hype




and more....
carbon credit trading Companies


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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 08:13 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

I think we know where Mr. Bell stands on the issues:

www.forbes.com...

Now here's a question: if someone sincerely believes that global warming is being caused by greenhouse gases being released into the atmosphere by human activities, and that carbon credit trading is a reasonable solution to the problem, why shouldn't they invest in carbon trading? Wouldn't that simply be consistent?



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 09:09 AM
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Ice Age

Causes


edit on 20-9-2015 by Gestas because: Fixed.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 09:51 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: xuenchen

I think we know where Mr. Bell stands on the issues:

www.forbes.com...

Now here's a question: if someone sincerely believes that global warming is being caused by greenhouse gases being released into the atmosphere by human activities, and that carbon credit trading is a reasonable solution to the problem, why shouldn't they invest in carbon trading? Wouldn't that simply be consistent?


Big assumption to actually believe carbon trading reduces CO2.




posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

It doesn't 't it only gives permits to big polluters like China to use the money they have accumulated from buying US debt to buy credits to keep polluting, while small countries with not much wealth be punished while taking more debt to be able to survive, then use them as example of the global warming.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 10:13 AM
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Big assumption to actually believe carbon trading reduces CO2.


There are much better ways, but carbon trading was the only alternative that Conservatives would accept. It does not involve raising taxes, does not require industrial plants to retrofit, and it presents an opportunity to make money. Your research has undoubtedly made you aware of this, I trust.
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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: DJW001

The problem with that carbon tax selling is that is going to become the next market bubble to end up bursting and then we the tax payers pay for the mistakes of the greedy bastards that created it.

As usual anything that has not actually backing that is used for money making end up costing the tax payers money.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 10:24 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

Carbon credits is paying for the privilege to pollute.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 10:31 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Exactly, I know, I have researched in the issue, that is why I have the signature I have, is not that I don't believe in earth changing cycles of warming and cooling, is plenty of research on that issue, is just that is a group of profiteers alarming and scaring people into believing that we humans are the cause of it and that we need to believe what we are told by so call experts, backed by nothing but big profiteers with already trillions of dollars assigned to make more trillions on the scare, while selling snake oil to the regular population as a means to save the earth.

If earth wanted to get rid of us the human species, is going to do it and is not darn thing we can do about it, we should ask the dinosaurs what they thought about that.

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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: marg6043

That was very well put. Social engineering has created a cause that benefits the few by convincing people that when nothing happens, they saved the day!



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

And as usual we modern humans are no longer in tune with nature and respect nature anymore, now nature has become our worst enemy and a big inconvenience to our comfort zone.

Profiteers knows that, they know that most people doesn't want change, that they will not want to deal with change and that most people will rather pay for somebody else to solve their problems.

That's when the snake oil sellers will cash the most on how to save earth.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: neo96




The science says the earth's climate has been changing for over 5 billion years. In a perpetual state of change. A constant state of motion, and LONG before mankind ever began walking up right, and Long before his industrialization.


Yep, smog is a constant state of motion, Cro Magnon man struggled with smog all the time.

It's a tired old argument-Yes the climate will change over time , but the question is are we affecting the environment with our actions? it has nothing to do dinosaur farts or whatever may have affected the world in the past, it's about what our actions might be doing in the present.



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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 11:35 AM
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Big assumption to actually believe carbon trading reduces CO2.

No so much of an assumption, it worked quite well for SO2.

More than twenty years later, the introduction of the national SO2 allowance-trading program as part of the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 remains widely regarded as a landmark step in the worldwide history of environmental regulation. The program, while not without flaws, is viewed as a success by almost all measures. Certainly it demonstrated that broad-based cap-and-trade systems can be used to achieve significant emissions reductions, that firms can navigate and regulators can enforce the compliance requirements of such systems, and that giving the private sector the flexibility to pursue a range of abatement options can simultaneously protect the environment, stimulate innovation and diffusion, and reduce aggregate costs.

belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu...


2.bp.blogspot.com...
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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: Thecakeisalie

The Last Time CO2 Was the Highest' 400 hundred times more than today, Humans Didn’t Exist and earth was 8 to 15 degrees Celsius warmer than today.

Warming periods are always followed by cooling trends, the question is, if the next cooling trend will be the next ice age as we are do for another one.

I guess by then we will be paying a fortune for a piece of the next agenda, underground cities closes to earth core.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 12:21 PM
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The OP's 20 scientists are seeking legal action and the charges are inherently specific in that process.

The charges are

“have knowingly deceived the American people about the risks of climate change, as a means to forestall America’s response to climate change.”

Read more: dailycaller.com...


According to the 20 scientists, deception is OK, as long as it favors action on a national level, i.e. more plutocratic power.



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 12:30 PM
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And is well pay for by those behind the Global warming agenda,

While people had gotten stuck on the clima change and CO2, nobody here can even think how this issue became center state, actually is been in the making for decades.

The history of Global warming, now clima change.It was a hypothesis that became a political issue with a purpose


The origins of the global warming scare

The hypothesis of man-made global warming has existed since the 1880s. It was an obscure scientific hypothesis that burning fossil fuels would increase CO2 in the air to enhance the greenhouse effect and thus cause global warming. Before the 1980s this hypothesis was usually regarded as a curiosity because the nineteenth century calculations indicated that mean global temperature should have risen more than 1°C by 1940, and it had not. Then, in 1979, Mrs Margaret Thatcher (now Lady Thatcher) became Prime Minister of the UK, and she elevated the hypothesis to the status of a major international policy issue.

Mrs Thatcher is now often considered to have been a great UK politician: she gave her political party (the Conservative Party) victory in three General Elections, resided over the UK’s conduct of the Falklands War, replaced much of the UK’s Welfare State with monetarist economics, and privatised most of the UK’s nationalised industries. But she had yet to gain that reputation when she came to power in 1979. Then, she was the first female leader of a major western state, and she desired to be taken seriously by political leaders of other major countries. This desire seemed difficult to achieve because her only experience in government had been as Education Secretary (i.e. a Junior Minister) in the Heath administration that collapsed in 1974. She had achieved nothing notable as Education Secretary but was remembered by the UK public for having removed the distribution of milk to schoolchildren (she was popularly known as ‘Milk Snatcher Thatcher’.)


www.john-daly.com...

I bet people had no idea about this fact




posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 12:44 PM
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While people had gotten stuck on the clima change and CO2, nobody here can even think how this issue became center state, actually is been in the making for decades.


I thought about it quite a bit actually, and come to the conclusion the people that push global warming is because of their already bigotry towards fossil fuel companies. IE BIG OIL.

Global warming is just an extenstion of anti corporatism progressives just LOVE to hate.

And they will latch on to anything to 'justify' it.

Did not know about Thatcher there.

So another example of todays progressives latching on to European 'ideals'.
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posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: marg6043
A blogger?
Richard Courtney?

Richard S. Courtney is the Technical Editor for CoalTrans International, a journal of the international coal trading industry.

desmogblog.com...



posted on Sep, 20 2015 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: Phage

I'm sure he likes to dress as Santa too during Christmas time, is nice to take what you want and drop what you don't like just because you can.

That is life, we all do it and more so those that can pay for information tailored too their needs and agendas, government love it.


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