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originally posted by: windword
a reply to: CharlieSpeirs
Nope, not deflecting, not trying to single out Muslims either. Metallicus did that in asking you what the Muslim stance is on abortion. Just like asking what the Christian stance is on abortion, there isn't "one".
You're right, all stereotypes are guilty of hypocrisy. Its not their fault.
originally posted by: AboveBoard
a reply to: Metallicus
Metallicus - I REALLY appreciate your thoughts on this, as you are coming from the far right Libertarian side of things (correct me if I'm wrong).
Government PP funding doesn't even include abortion funding, which is a whole separate set of books for the private funding of abortion, and not all PP clinics even give abortion services.
Anyway - thank you for that very sane assessment. I hope a lot of people on the Right will see things this way too.
originally posted by: Phoenix
a reply to: Krazysh0t
In a way I sort of see what you're saying in principle.
In practice the President is dictating to another branch of government what it will do.
Sure he can veto, but claiming Congress forced him to do so is a falsehood.
Overall It'd be nice to get some adults in there all the way around.
originally posted by: Phoenix
If Congress sends a budget bill to the President's desk and the President exercises his Veto because he disagrees with additions or deletions how can one claim that Congress shutdown the government?
Seems that would be the President's Veto that would cause a shutdown.
Oh wait I forgot Obama has dictatorial powers in that he can demand Congress only send him bills he will sign.
That Boehner guy needs to go back and get advice from Pelosi on how this is supposed to work.
If they don't send Obama bills he likes it'll be all their fault things come to a halt.
GW rolls in grave once more.
Article I, section 7 of the Constitution grants the President the authority to veto legislation passed by Congress. This authority is one of the most significant tools the President can employ to prevent the passage of legislation. Even the threat of a veto can bring about changes in the content of legislation long before the bill is ever presented to the President. The Constitution provides the President 10 days (excluding Sundays) to act on legislation or the legislation automatically becomes law. There are two types of vetoes: the “regular veto” and the “pocket veto.”
The regular veto is a qualified negative veto. The President returns the unsigned legislation to the originating house of Congress within a 10 day period usually with a memorandum of disapproval or a “veto message.” Congress can override the President’s decision if it musters the necessary two–thirds vote of each house. President George Washington issued the first regular veto on April 5, 1792. The first successful congressional override occurred on March 3, 1845, when Congress overrode President John Tyler’s veto of S. 66.