Teenager facing felony sex offender charges forced to plea and accept warrantless searches

originally posted by: Lipton

originally posted by: HomerinNC
a reply to: Lipton

Did you READ the article???

LOL did you?

As part of the plea deal, Copening accepted two reduced counts of disseminating harmful material to minors, WRAL reports. Like Denson, his year-long probation includes a ban on his cell phone. From the Fayetteville Observer:

District Court Judge April Smith sentenced Copening to a year of probation. During that year, her order says, Copening must stay in school, take a class on making good decisions, complete 30 hours of community service, not use or possess alcohol or illegal drugs, not possess a cellphone and must submit to warrantless searches.

You do know what a plea deal is, right?

All for having a picture of HIMSELF on his phone.

I have a photo of my penis on my phone (long story). Do I have to worry since there is no way of a cop knowing if that penis is 42 or 16?

There needs a new law that gives these teenagers who are obviously not producing child porn a way out of this...........

originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys

There needs a new law that gives these teenagers who are obviously not producing child porn a way out of this...........

I think people are misunderstanding my stance on this.

I personally don't believe that these kids were producing kiddie porn.

However, by the legal definition, creating and disseminating sexual images of individuals under 18 is illegal. That's why you'll see the disclaimer of actors ages before a scene starts in porn.

Again, I'd like to point out that these kids got off with a slap on the wrist. The court agreed and I'd go so far as to say that in 6 months the probation will be waived and everyone will walk away from this having learned a lesson.

As a side point, would you and the others that are upset that these kids are going through this still be as defensive if the guy had forwarded pictures of the 16 year old girl to his friends? Would you consider it posession of child porn if some 45 year old hacked the kids phone and published them on the Internet?

If it's acceptable for one guy to possess them, why not everyone? That's the point that needs to be made here.

originally posted by: HomerinNC

All for having a picture of HIMSELF on his phone..

They both had pictures of themselves and each other.

originally posted by: Lipton
As a side point, would you and the others that are upset that these kids are going through this still be as defensive if the guy had forwarded pictures of the 16 year old girl to his friends? Would you consider it posession of child porn if some 45 year old hacked the kids phone and published them on the Internet?

If it's acceptable for one guy to possess them, why not everyone? That's the point that needs to be made here.

It has to do with the consent of who took the pictures.

a reply to: Domo1

Great story. I hope teenagers keep getting arrested for this sort of thing. That way all the control freaks out there can cry when it's their child being arrested. But you know what? It won't be the children of the rich, they will walk away with no serious charges. It will only be the average citizen that watches as their son or daughter is rounded up and fed through the judicial-prison industrial complex.

Sorry, but we get what we deserve. No one is using logic anymore. We have a lot of stupid rules and laws on our books that go against human nature. When you go against human nature you end up with this system.

Welcome to our new hell. It's nice to see the brainwashing is still working on most of you.

a reply to: Lipton

You make interesting points.

It makes sense to try to stamp it out at all levels, because I can easily see the picture spreading, and that would be a bad thing. At the same time, it seems like there needs to be greater discretion in dispensing punishment for these types of situations. To me it seems almost akin to charging a teenager with child molestation when he/she masturbates.

originally posted by: Lipton

originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys

There needs a new law that gives these teenagers who are obviously not producing child porn a way out of this...........

As a side point, would you and the others that are upset that these kids are going through this still be as defensive if the guy had forwarded pictures of the 16 year old girl to his friends? Would you consider it posession of child porn if some 45 year old hacked the kids phone and published them on the Internet?

If it's acceptable for one guy to possess them, why not everyone? That's the point that needs to be made here.

There is a logical answer and an emotional answer. The emotional answer means you are plugged into the Matrix and believe and obey regarding everything you are told.

The logical answer is that at 16 human beings are biologically adults. Just because western civilizations have artificially extended childhood doesn't mean we are right. Historically and in indigenous cultures there is a "passage" from childhood to adulthood, there is no middle ground.

Sixteen is considered a child by our standards because we have indoctrinated and mentally forced an extended childhood on our (USA) population. There is plenty of evidence that shows this is what we have done. You may not want to believe it but both scientific and historical evidence shows otherwise.

That said, you are absolutely correct and the current law is clear. I am not advocating anyone be stupid enough to buck the system and be involved in such things because our justice system isn't designed to be logical and fair - it's designed to chew you up, spit you out, and f@#k you in the arse... unless you are rich, of course.

a reply to: WCmutant

Oh please. Some cultures thought that a 12 year old was an adult. The brain doesn't stop changing until the mid twenties. A 16 year old is not an adult, by any measure. Being able to ejaculate or ovulate and some body hair doesn't make one an adult.

Kids this age are stupid. You were, I was, experience is needed for maturity and that's hard to get in a short number of years.

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: WCmutant

Oh please. Some cultures thought that a 12 year old was an adult. The brain doesn't stop changing until the mid twenties. A 16 year old is not an adult, by any measure. Being able to ejaculate or ovulate and some body hair doesn't make one an adult.

Kids this age are stupid. You were, I was, experience is needed for maturity and that's hard to get in a short number of years.

Honestly, I erased everything I wrote, all the research that refutes this claim. Your mind is plugged squarely into the social construct that TPTB have provided you and you trumpet it like a good little soldier. I can't change that.

We are living a social construct and further pushing our social construct onto other societies with a holier than thou attitude. Doesn't sound much different than European raiders/pillagers meeting indigenous populations for the first time. The Evil Empire LIVES!!!!!!