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Irving 9th-grader arrested after taking homemade clock to school: 'So you tried to make a bomb?'

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: TheBulk

Really? Can you link us to some other events where a kid was arrested and escorted out of school for trying to assemble an electronic device on his own?


There are dozens of stories out there about kids being suspended or arrested for innocuous things like chewing a pop tart in to the shape of a gun. It's only ever a sign of how evil and racist America is when it happens to a kid who isn't white. When the kid is white, well that's just dumb people in the school district.


I didn't ask for that. I asked for a very specific thing; which you didn't provide.




posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Krazysh0t

you're probably more correct then all of us should be comfortable with.

That this is wrongful persecution, and yes, I used that word deliberately. This kid was profiled. Seems little doubt of that.

...and unfortunately, there will be a small minority, though a noisy one, that will support this travesty.

Yet another example of how much events of fourteen years ago have changed all too many of us, and not for the better.

Indeed, the terrorists may have won. If they, by their actions, have reduced all too many of us to this sort of stupidity.


I don't blame 9/11 for this. I blame conservative media for constantly blasting the message that Muslims are terrorists and are coming to blow everything up when that claim is patently false. How often does the news cycle circle back around to some story about terrorist cells in America or terrorists about to cross the border from Mexico or Canada? Keep in mind, this kid is a high schooler. It didn't say his age, but the way the article is written, it looks like he's a ninth grader or just entered high school. This means the kid was likely an infant (if even born) when 9/11 happened. The prejudices that occurred here weren't because of that event, but all the social programming that happened afterwards.

I mean, I know that liberal and independent media was bad for awhile too shortly after 9/11 happened, but they've since abandoned that rhetoric. Is it surprising that this event happened in a state that is largely conservative?

Conservative media is pretty much breeding Americans that could be brothers in arms with ISIS, since both tend to hate Muslims.
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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe



It does make me wonder if there was some other instance with this kid prior to this one though.


The instance is that he wasn't a white football player.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:04 PM
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a reply to: Glinda

Are you kidding me?

This site is the definition of ignorant and you're an example



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:08 PM
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People still more concerned about going against the 'liberal media' rather than this poor kid's bout with discrimination. Get over yourselves.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:16 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I can honestly say I have not had THAT much interaction with Muslims, but the interaction I HAVE had recently is not a positive one. Has to do with my daughter and my ex's new Muslim husband. Controlling is being polite when talking about him. He does not want any interaction with me and my ex except through email and is changing the way I am able to interact with my own daughter.

Needless to say I have put him in his place on it and could really care less what he says, but my ex buys into it and it is affecting my daughter so unfortunately it has put a distaste in my mouth for the Muslim religion. Control seems to be a large part of it and that does not sit well with me having an 8 year old daughter in the picture.

This story is neither here nor there....it is simply a case of a big screw up and some teacher profiling what they thought was a possible radical it would seem. Seems the LEO's did the same.
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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe
a reply to: Krazysh0t

I can honestly say I have not had THAT much interaction with Muslims, but the interaction I HAVE had recently is not a positive one. Has to do with my daughter and my ex's new Muslim husband. Controlling is being polite when talking about him. He does not want any interaction with me and my ex except through email and is changing the way I am able to interact with my own daughter.

Needless to say I have put him in his place on it and could really care less what he says, but my ex buys into it and it is affecting my daughter so unfortunately it has put a distaste in my mouth for the Muslim religion. Control seems to be a large part of it and that does not sit well with me having an 8 year old daughter in the picture.


But that is just an aspect of being human. I know Christians that are controlling like that as well. Heck, far east Asian culture is built around controlling every detail of family life by the patriarch (not exactly like you mentioned, but similar).

I was seeing an Iranian girl once that had a super controlling father (she only let me come over her house when he was at work). But she wasn't biased against me or anything (she had some other problems that made me stop seeing her, but I'm not going to get too into detail on my abysmal dating life).

Another point, the company I work for is owned by Pakistanis and they employ quite a few Muslims as well. There are a few bad eggs, but most are pretty easy to work with. The reason is because we all recognize that we have very different cultures. As long as they aren't breaking any laws though, I don't have any problems with them and they don't with me. It's not like I get evil eyes if I start talking about bacon or anything.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yeah...I understand there are many personalities in general. I have known a lot of super christians that believe the tower of babel was real and blah blah blah.

My issue with him is that he uses his religion in his conversation to justify what he is saying. He has done it both times I have met him in person and in most of the email/text/calls as well. I guess he could just be interpreting it to the extreme, but I don't think I am mistaken in stating that the muslim culture, in general, is not accepting of strong women, or is more about the woman being "in her place".

At least in Tunisia, where he is from, that seems to be the case.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Well that certainly isn't true where I work. There are PLENTY of Muslim women in managerial positions.

Do keep in mind that women being second class to men is a tenet that was mostly believed the world over for a VERY long time. The secular part of the world has only just recently moved past those ignorant tenants, but most religious parts of the world (note I said "religious" and not "Muslim") still follow this tenant. Well most of the Muslim belief is located in religious countries, so it shouldn't be surprising that a Muslim with connections to the Muslim world may behave like this. You can't expect someone to completely change everything about their personality when they move elsewhere. It usually takes a generation or two before that happens.

Heck, even in the secular part of the world there are STILL many men who wrongly think they are better than women and try to institute policies (either corporately or governmentally) to control or keep them down, and they aren't just limited to Muslims.
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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Vasa Croe

Well that certainly isn't true where I work. There are PLENTY of Muslim women in managerial positions.

Do keep in mind that women being second class to men is a tenet that was mostly believed the world over for a VERY long time. The secular part of the world has only just recently moved past those ignorant tenants, but most religious parts of the world (note I said "religious" and not "Muslim") still follow this tenant. Well most of the Muslim belief is located in religious countries, so it shouldn't be surprising that a Muslim with connections to the Muslim world may behave like this. You can't expect someone to completely change everything about their personality when they move elsewhere. It usually takes a generation or two before that happens.

Heck, even in the secular part of the world there are STILL many men who wrongly think they are better than women and try to institute policies (either corporately or governmentally) to control or keep them down, and they aren't just limited to Muslims.


Agreed. This one just hits closer to home for me. Just like any religion, those with a certain mentality will be drawn to it because they interpret the teachings in a manner that benefits their own beliefs.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:44 PM
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The saddest part about this. This is how you create terrorists and terrorist sympathizers. This kid was a tech geek who loved building and working with electronics and probably not a terrorist.

When he is on twitter he might see some isis posts. Before he might of dismissed them. But now in the back of his mind he will always have this situation where he was profiled and abused by a paranoid school system. So he might think, hey maybe those isis guys are right.

People are worried about hidden terrorists among refugee's, but then they go and treat American citizens who are Muslims badly. Those people you talk crap about and treat badly and profile, they are already here. You think they are just going to forget what you say and do. You think they are going to forget you treated them like crap, for no good reason, only out of fear. Well now they fear you, and could do things to you based on that fear.

Do you feel safer?
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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: alienmma

So ANYONE expressing ANY alternative point of view or possible scenario is ignorant. Let us ALL march in PC lockstep--which is EXACTLY what has lead us to situations like this.

Don't discuss or discern...believe ONLY what media (and the tweets from politicians!) tells us. Move along now sheeple--move along.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:00 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe

Religion can make a good person better and a bad person worse. The latter seems to be more prevalent, especially in the ME where religion is used to oppress and kill others because some think they're "better" than others. If you're an arsehole, you will likely remain one, until you change yourself and make an effort to treat your fellow humans well. Religion isn't the magic cure.
These sort of idiots all share a common trait, self-righteousness.

[Quran 13:11] " Indeed, God will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. And when God intends for a people ill, there is no repelling it. And there is not for them besides Him any protector. "



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:06 PM
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What a ridiculous situation..

What the teacher and her paranoia or inability to gather facts probably doesn't realize is she could have just planted enough seeds of resentment so that in 10 years this kid becomes a terrorist. Hopefully it doesn't quell his desire to learn more about electronics, NASA, whatever...

I would be interested to see if I gave another type of student my latest Rasberry Pi box , which looks more like a bomb, would they also get pulled aside and taken in?

I'm all for gathering the facts..I'm all for investigating scenarios and more often than not my first response isn't to jump right to conspiracy or some nefarious plots until info is known but man on this one the teacher seemed to miss out on applying common sense.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: TXRabbit
Yes Martha...the terrorists have indeed won..



I've been saying this since 2002.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Here is the piece of terrorist scum after his arrest. phew.... that was a close one, Way to go Texas.






It's an absolute disgrace.
But this is what happens when racist, bigoted morons spew filth about ALL Muslims ALL the time... it seeps into people's minds and then they do s*** like this.
Arresting smart kids who are trying to do good things and impress their teachers and class mates.

What a world eh?



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:52 PM
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Again, why did the teacher who he 'showed' it to tell him to hide it in his bookbag? To me, that is the flag. What you are all arguing is islamaphobia when it should be 'why' was this kid picked out?

I mean, if any kid, white or by look associated with Islam, had something suspicious I would not have a problem with checking it. I mean, a kid wears a Confederate flag and it is deemed hateful and we all agree. No one can be hurt with a flag. however, a person can be killed by someone who has specific knowledge. There have been school shootings so why not a school bombing? I think everyone should take a step back, apologize for the 'inconvenience, not the act' and move on.

Obviously this kid is smart enough to get into a good school so I am sure this will not ruin anything.

This is all CAIR driven, blown out of proportion to take away from the fact that Islam is being reviewed and taught in schools as direct curriculum and not electives. MSM folks...MSM....I mean, this kid was invited to the White House....

"“Cool clock, Ahmed,” Obama tweeted about Ahmed Mohamed, 14. “Want to bring it to the White House?

“We should inspire more kids like you to like science,” the president added. “It’s what makes America great.” tweeted the POTUS....

Can't get the guy to talk about veterans and benefits but a Muslim child in school...BINGO!



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Those capacitors look scary



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:56 PM
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The article in the OP has been updated:


Irving's police chief announced Wednesday that charges won’t be filed against Ahmed Mohamed, the MacArthur High School freshman arrested Monday after he brought what school officials and police described as a “hoax bomb” on campus.

At a joint press conference with Irving ISD, Chief Larry Boyd said the device -- confiscated by an English teacher despite the teen’s insistence that it was a clock -- was “certainly suspicious in nature.”


The rest goes on to talk about how the police chief thinks that nothing was done wrong in this and that he has a good relationship with the Muslim community. It's a bunch of "blah blah blah" lip service, but I felt the most important part was what was said above.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 02:56 PM
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originally posted by: Boeing777
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Those capacitors look scary


Lol. Only if they are flux capacitors and you are traveling 88 mph at the time



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