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'A' problem with Corbyns anti austerity anti EU anti war anti NATO anti nuclear republican mandate

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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 08:19 PM
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.... As you can surmise from the title, Corbyn stands for a lot of radical things... He's not a centre ground politician by any stretch of the imagination... On Saturday he was election by over 250,000 new members of the Labour party in a landslide win against three other more moderate candidates, all of whom serving members of the shadow cabinet, whereas Jeremy on the other hand in his 30+ years as a member of parliament, has not once held a prominent front bench position, steadfastly sticking by his principles throughout his whole political career.

But there is a slight problem, potentially, in his mandate, insofar as we dont actually know which one of his principles most inspired Labour supporters to vote for him..... All we can say for certain is the political beliefs of Labour supports in recent years in the UK seem to have shifted dramatically away from the Blairite 'New Labour' mandate of 1997, to the Left... And Jeremy is the guy they feel most stands for whatever it is they stand for... But, Jeremy stands for a lot of things.... So based on Saturdays vote we don't really know what it is those quarter of a million+ Labour voters beleive in or stand for themselves...

It's impossible to say how far public opinion has really shifted on any particular issue, based purely on Saturdays result... For example, we don't know if its was Jeremy's anti trident policy, or his anti austerity policy that most inspired voters to give him their vote... We can't say which ones the Labour supporters back him on and which ones they don't back him on... It might even be as a hypothetical example to illustrate how problematic his 'mandate' is, that there is a growing Republican sentiment in the UK, and he as the only Republican in the race was someone the majority of the voters wanted to back for that reason... In reality I'm sure public opinion will have been a very mixed bag, but how mixed a bag and what variety of sweets the pickandmix contained, what quantity, what diversity, what range etc, is impossible to say and anyone that tells you otherwise is having you on.








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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 08:39 PM
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I am pleased to see a real labour politician take over but I disagree with him about Trident. We need a strong nuclear deterrent. We're a small island and to risk our national security for the sake of ideology does not sit well with me.



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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:52 PM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
I am pleased to see a real labour politician take over but I disagree with him about Trident. We need a strong nuclear deterrent. We're a small island and to risk our national security for the sake of ideology does not sit well with me.

I've said it before and I will say it again, please don't discuss trident in this thread



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 03:23 AM
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a reply to: nonjudgementalist

Trident, trident, trident!



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 04:02 AM
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LOL!! ....Good thread

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 04:12 AM
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Not much to say on this apart from he is pro eu as far as I know and contrary to the thread title.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 07:15 AM
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a reply to: nonjudgementalist

Corbyn's election as Labour leader is just further evidence that the party political system is no longer fit for purpose.

There's been a lot of exposure given to his alleged beliefs and intended policies - some of which I think are great ideas, some so so and some are just naïve, idealistic nonsense - but we won't know for certain which way The Labour Party are going until he's been in charge for some time.

As it stands I for one will neither support nor vote for a party whose leader who will share a platform with murdering terrorists, supports the break up of The Union and will consider relinquishing sovereignty of a British Overseas Territory and who has little respect for The Right to Self-Determination.

Only Labour Party members know why they voted for Corbyn.
One thing is for certain; they have given UK voters a polar opposite to a right wing option, something UK politics has desperately needed for some time.

Only time will tell if that will appeal to the electorate.
Personally I doubt it, after a sustained period of constant demonization of all things 'leftist' I think the majority have been conditioned to reject anything with a degree of social responsibility.

As I've said before, I'm no great fan of Corbyn and the champagne socialists who seem to offer him so much support but I believe he should be allowed time to see how he conducts himself and exactly what he stands for and represents before being judged.......something I very much doubt will happen given the media's shameful yet predictable reaction to his election.



posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 12:56 AM
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He has shown what he stands for through his conduct over the Islington organised child rape scandal. He was repeatedly asked for help over many years and ignored those pleas.

The entrapment programme is used to control politicians.

Controlled politicians will only offer different flavours of slavery and perceived debt to private bankers.

These are the two most important issues and he falls down flat on both of them.



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