The Center for Medical Progress -- Planned Parenthood Video #10

a reply to: Hefficide

Your common sense is usually shifting with winds of popularity.

If you were lead by a guiding principle, the wind change would not affect you fundamental tenents of right and wrong.

quotes are taken from here:
www.centerformedicalprogress.org... nt-of-income-doing-this/

“I have been talking to the executive director of the National Abortion Federation, we’re trying to figure this out as an industry, about how we’re going to manage remuneration, because the headlines would be a disaster.”

ya know, this kind of sounds like it goes along with what was said on the other videos....ya know....
like, gee we'll have to check and see what the other clinics are getting, because we really have no idea!!

stem express said on one video it has triple digit sources for this tissue, and yet planned parenthood says that it only has 5 clinics that were involved in the fetal donations at the time that the videos hit, and one of those were solely supplying a university free of charge.

so well why no interest in the other 96+ clinics that are doing this, and how much they are getting?

“But we have independent colleagues who generate a fair amount of income doing this.”

I kind of think that those independent colleagues, at least some of them are part of the 96+ and not part of planned parenthood.

but, oh yes, let's slap more restrictions on abortions....
let's cut the funding to planned parenthood.....
what, no, let's not cut the funding for the stem cell research....
we might need one of the cures they come up with later in life!!!


the congressional hearings has all but admitted that they can't prove that planned parenthood has done anything illegal....
matter of fact, the one I listened to for 4+ hours really didn't spend that much time trying to prove it and seems to not like it when anyone brought up how the videos were highly edited, nor did they have the unedited versions, although one of the committees have finally issued a subpoena for the unedited versions.

a reply to: dawnstar

Interesting point you bring up, what about the other 96+ indeed? Well, obviously there is an agenda against PP only, and anyone caught up with them. CMP has no credibility what so ever for all the obvious reasons but I fear your logic will not stand in this whirlwind of BS. We know why, and with each thread created about this the usual players all arrive to play their part, myself included.

I dare say, this should be our last performance on the PP/CMP stage because at this point it's time to move on. Let CMP and their die hard supporters enjoy each others embrace as the rest of us turn our backs to them.

a reply to: xuenchen



I have to wonder .... Are you by any chance on the payroll of the

Centre for Medical Process

Is there a full unchopped/edited version of the video?

It's pretty easy to manipulate video to make people see what you want them to see

Should this thread and past threads just be put in the hoax bin?

I think so.

It seems to be some sort of crusade against women's rights, at least I think it has the undertones of that.

a reply to: Swills

I think CMP has killed the issue, everyone's kind of debated out. which is probably by design also. we're all tired of the issue, so now the investigations can finish up and find nothing and congress can do whatever they decide and no one will take notice.

a reply to: Hefficide
how is it any different than 60 minutes?

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: Teikiatsu

Better suspend disbelief as long as it suits my views.

Ignorance is bliss, it seems.

originally posted by: Hefficide
a reply to: Granite

I think that providing women with access to cancer screenings is right.

Why does it have to be PP? There are other health clinics too, you know. What makes PP so special?

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
Should this thread and past threads just be put in the hoax bin?

I think so.

It seems to be some sort of crusade against women's rights, at least I think it has the undertones of that.

It must be racist and homophobic somehow, too. I'm sure PC/progressive logic will tell us how in a few more posts.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

you mean like those ophthalmologists; nursing homes caregivers; dentists; ear, nose, and throat doctors; and even cosmetic surgeons that the lawyers for the state of louisiana tried to claim could replace planned parenthood?

Louisiana: Women Don’t Need Planned Parenthood. They Have Dentists.
www.motherjones.com...

Nowhere is this struggle more apparent than in a recent declaration by Louisiana's attorneys that there are 2,000 family planning providers ready to accommodate new patients. A federal judge, reviewing the list in an early September court hearing, found hundreds of entries for specialists such as ophthalmologists; nursing homes caregivers; dentists; ear, nose, and throat doctors; and even cosmetic surgeons.

"It strikes me as extremely odd that you have a dermatologist, an audiologist, a dentist who are billing for family planning services," said the judge, John deGravelles, who will determine in the next week whether it is legal for the state to end Planned Parenthood's Medicaid contracts. "But that is what you're representing to the court? You're telling me that they can provide family planning and related services?"


His harsh questioning sent the state back to the drawing board. On Tuesday, the state's attorneys acknowledged that the dentists and other specialists didn't belong on the list. They filed a pared-down version that lists just 29 health care providers.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

I have no idea how it could be racist or homophobic.

Carry on.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

I couldn't agree more.

originally posted by: xuenchen

"Fact" or "Fiction" ?

Fiction. Duh. That was already proven long before this new, stupid video came out.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
Should this thread and past threads just be put in the hoax bin?

Agreed. These videos are starting to enter the level of trolling. They aren't making more people outraged and since it was proven that even the "unedited" videos are deceptively edited, CMP is losing their traction.

originally posted by: Teikiatsu

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
Should this thread and past threads just be put in the hoax bin?

I think so.

It seems to be some sort of crusade against women's rights, at least I think it has the undertones of that.

It must be racist and homophobic somehow, too. I'm sure PC/progressive logic will tell us how in a few more posts.

Actually, it's usually the pro-life conservative crowd who comes along talking about how PP is racist then posting a bunch of quote mines about Margaret Sanger.

So don't pretend like your camp doesn't pull the racism card.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
Should this thread and past threads just be put in the hoax bin?

I think so.

It seems to be some sort of crusade against women's rights, at least I think it has the undertones of that.

And, yet, it's NOT in the hoax bin...is it?

Why do you suppose that is?

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: xuenchen

“Certainly, everything we provide–oh, gonads! Oh my God, gonads. Everything we provide is fresh.”
--Dr. Carolyn Westhoff, Senior Medical Advisor for PPFA

Is this Planned Parenthood, or the neighborhood Butcher Shop?
These people are beyond repulsive.

That lady is sick. Notice them all sipping drinks having a grand old time at the human baby flesh convention?

I think we can say without doubt that this is in fact a big industry.

NLBS needs to address this

originally posted by: Swills
a reply to: xuenchen

Still with these? I admire that even after the NLBS video you're still willing to post these CMP videos.

But....

People on here are trying to portray NLBS as a beacon of infinite truth. Although I enjoyed a few of the episodes, that show's OPINION does not trump facts or logic.

You ignored the content of the video and directed us to NLBS.

They're like snopes, they're wrong a lot of the time yet people turn to them for all things "official".

This video is very damaging to the deniers such as yourself.