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Sanders: America Was Founded On ‘Racist Principles. That’s A Fact.

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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 09:47 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Please, spare me your judgements about Bernie's "principles" already. It's called facing reality. That reality being that there has never been a U.S. president that hasn't been from one of the Two Major Parties. You know that, I know that, everyone knows that. Don't act like you don't know why he's running as a Democrat. It's the same reason Trump is running as a Republican. Because our system is so rigged you have to just to have a chance.

There is no position that is too low for you to take is there?? Nothing too underhanded or slanderous that you consider too ridiculous to throw in to an argument??? No amount of hyperbole or exaggeration you feel is out of line or inappropriate???

BTW, how's that planned coup coming along???




posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 09:48 PM
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originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: Reallyfolks

I'm saying the United States Army, had not idea, where he was, on the planet, before he decided to watch some TV.

I did not follow the news. I had heard they shot missiles. I typed into Google, gaddafi missile strike and found results that answer your questions.



But what you just told me was that based on your company information they launched a missile strike and killed his whole family. Scroll up if you need to. Does that mean his wife and kids?

Also when we initially talked you said he was killed by a missile strike, but the last anyone saw of him he was being beaten and shot by NTC troops. So either the video was fake, gaddafi was fake, or what you said was wrong.

I'm simply trying to understand did a missile kill him based on your company information and when you say the whole family was killed do you mean wife and kids?



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 09:50 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm


There is no position that is too low for you to take is there?? Nothing too underhanded or slanderous that you consider too ridiculous to throw in to an argument??? No amount of hyperbole or exaggeration you feel is out of line or inappropriate???


(I don't think there is.) (No filter on that one.)



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 09:52 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm




Please, spare me your judgements about Bernie's "principles" already. It's called facing reality. T


Thought Sanders was suppose to change that eh.

What better way than to run a third party, but nope.

What better way to do that than take money from lobbyists, aka special interests like unions.

Spare me the false outrage when someone dares hold Sanders accountable for his actions.

To put it bluntly Sanders is not above reproach.,



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: Reallyfolks

I'm saying "Smith" was very busy that week, and "Anderson" happened to travel to Lybia, someone mentioned blowing him up, then later said it was his house blown up not him.

www.theguardian.com...

No question, America was locating his 'houses' with television.



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:06 PM
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a reply to: neo96





Dunno where Sanders is getting his 'facts' from


I'll tell you exactly where... from Howard Zinn, a communist "history" book writer whose books have been used to indoctrinate our youth in public schools.

The accolade belongs instead to the unreconstructed, anti-American Marxist Howard Zinn, whose cartoon anti-history of the United States is still selling 128,000 copies a year twenty years after its original publication. Many of those copies are assigned readings for courses in colleges and high schools taught by leftist disciples of their radical mentor. - See more at: historynewsnetwork.org...

Through Zinn’s looking-glass, Maoist China, site of history’s bloodiest state-sponsored killings, becomes “the closest thing, in the long history of that ancient country, to a people’s government, independent of outside control.” The authoritarian Nicaraguan Sandinistas were “welcomed” by their own people, while the opposition Contras, who backed the candidate that triumphed when free elections were finally held, were a “terrorist group” that “seemed to have no popular support inside Nicaragua.” Castro’s Cuba, readers learn, “had no bloody record of suppression.” - See more at: historynewsnetwork.org...


Zinn’s Marxist explanation of the New World begins with Columbus who like every other settler in the New World was driven by the (evil) profit motive. “Behind the English invasion of North America, behind their massacre of Indians, their deception, their brutality, was that special powerful drive born in civilizations based on private profit.” This malicious view of people who often came to the New World to escape persecution in the old, who sometimes championed the rights of indigenous peoples and who mostly attempted to live peacefully alongside them is characteristic of the extreme anti-European, anti-white, any American prejudice of this book - See more at: historynewsnetwork.org...


historynewsnetwork.org...
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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Wow! That's really very weird. I never heard of the guy (Zinn), and I'm not a youth. My kids are in their mid-20s, can't say they ever heard of Zinn either.


Zinn’s Marxist explanation of the New World begins with Columbus who like every other settler in the New World was driven by the (evil) profit motive.

“Behind the English invasion of North America, behind their massacre of Indians, their deception, their brutality, was that special powerful drive born in civilizations based on private profit.”

Exactly right!!!

(You're late to the party, but come on in!! Welcome! )



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:14 PM
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originally posted by: charlyv
The entire planet was racist, in one form or another, back then.
To deny that just basically ignores our collective history and defines Hippocracy.

It is still here, but morphed into self-righteous ideals that still serve as a control mechanism for some very dubious PTB.


Thanks for this.
Exactly, to debate whether white land owners of the 18th Century were racists is plainly ignorant. Of course they were racists! All nations were founded on racists principles in one way or another.
Let us not forget the scientific ideas of the 18th and 19th centuries. Linnaeus idea of 4 different human races, Morgan's unilineal social evolution (At the top of it was the white european societies). It was common sense then to believe blacks and indians were evolutionary speaking, closer to primates than white people.

And even if they conceived the "equality of all men" the same way we do today, which is highly debatable, there was a common belief that the white race was superior to others. The "undeniable evidence" was the expansion and colonization perpetuated by the european empires of the time. "Sure we are equal, but we gotta show them how to behave properly, put them in reservations, to help them achieve a higher degree of social evolution"



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Where in that quote, does it mention that profit is evil? It is not even implied.
It is simply speaking of the driving force of personal profit. The same driving force that Marxists use to explain the transition from feudalism to the modern age.
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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:22 PM
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a reply to: payta

um, I was just quoting and posting what ThirdEyeofHorus said.

Please, kindly, read the post again.
She was saying something about kids learning something about some guy named Zinn.....and something about evil profits.



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:28 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

BernBern backed Obama in his Presidential campaign. If there are any differences between the two, they would certainly be minor. They both have the same basic socialist mentality, though Barack might be a tad more into black liberation theology.



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

And, so? What does that have to do with this Zinn guy and Columbus???



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:38 PM
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originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: neo96

I would call the genocide of thousands of Native Americans " racist ". Wouldn't you ?




I would and would do it ALL DAY LONG...



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: neo96


Sorry no fear just loathing.

So you say

From your OP:
I hope that every person in this room today understands that it is unacceptable to judge people, discriminate against people based on the color of their skin. And I will also say, that as a nation — the truth is a nation that in many ways was created, and I’m sorry to have to say this from way back, on racist principles, that’s a fact. We have come a long way as a nation. Now I know, my guess is that probably not everybody here is an admirer or a voter for Barack Obama, but the point is that in 2008, this country took a huge step forward in voting for a candidate based on his ideas and not the color of his skin

You called the man a hypocrite for stating the obvious - this country was built on the backs of slaves. Doesn't make it any less true by claiming that that was normal for the times

Donald Trump - and Bernie Sanders? Almost seems like a metaphor for something - doesn't it?

You're trying to sell us on this idea of yours. In a country that gave us Citizens United - after all we've been through, at the hands of a class of people that brought the economy of the world to it's knees - you'd like us to believe that the rich are being persecuted?

Seems like you might be afraid of something

:-)


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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 11:03 PM
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a reply to: Spiramirabilis

I know what I said.

And Sanders wants to build his progressive little utopia off the backs of them evil rich.

As it said Sanders is a HYPOCRITE.

No difference.



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 11:06 PM
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Anyone notice the OP's divisiveness and "in your face" attitude? This is the problem that the media has created in this country, it has spread ignorance to monumental heights and has made people self-centered and hate-filled.

The OP is a perfect example of why this country is going downhill. So much hate and vitriol.



posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: neo96

Poor little rich boys and girls...

You know neo - some of them agree with Bernie

The times - they are a changin'

Night then...

:-)


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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 11:15 PM
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originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: neo96

Poor little rich boys and girls...

You know neo - some of them agree with Bernie

The times - they are a changin'

Night then...

:-)



www.abovetopsecret.com...

As i said.


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posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 11:25 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

But 90% of "The Media" is Left Wing biased.

No wonder the governments, and many (most?) citizens are deep in debt.




posted on Sep, 15 2015 @ 11:32 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

That's the problem. Media is biased, it doesn't matter which way they lean, the fact is they lean one way or the other and people eat it up. Neither side has the answer, they're too busy trying to make each other look bad and to divide people to actually care about creating a solution.

It's all a bunch of bull# and people buy it every single day. Hating people isn't going to solve a damn thing and I see a lot of hate in the OP's posts, in this thread and outside of it too. He's too worried about pointing out faults instead of finding a common ground, and THAT is what encapsulates America right now : division and hate, trying to one up the other side.
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