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Russia steps up military presence in Syria.

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 08:13 PM
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a reply to: markosity1973

Russia has vetoed numerous UN resolution dealing with Syria so there is plenty of blame to go around.

Assad has rejected any and all peace overtures that would result in a transition of power where he is not the leader. He only became open to that option when his control of Syria dwindled down to about 20% +/-. That was also before Russia became involved to the extent they are now.


Secondly if people did a little research they would have noticed Russia has been booting their extremists to Syria.




posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 09:15 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Could you please provide some sources for what you claim.

I am genuinely interested in learning the truth and so far the rabbit hole has only lead me to conclude this war is so bad because of the very poor and uncoordinated response directly against ISIS exacerbated by a lack of willingness to accommodate or even tolerate Assad



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 09:37 PM
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originally posted by: markosity1973
a reply to: Xcathdra

Could you please provide some sources for what you claim.

I am genuinely interested in learning the truth and so far the rabbit hole has only lead me to conclude this war is so bad because of the very poor and uncoordinated response directly against ISIS exacerbated by a lack of willingness to accommodate or even tolerate Assad


The real truth will never come out.... it will never be printed or mentioned in the media.

The only truth you/we will get is how the elits want us to see it for their benefit of their democracy. Remember we are riding the Train of Democracy to a future goal.

You know what the goal is.... you just dont know what stations the Train stops at on its way. At each station you just look out the window and see Things happening.


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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 09:39 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

No, you can't blame this on Russia blocking an intervention against Assad, It would be in favor of the extremists and those who fund them, namely the gulf states.
One should really dig into the gulf states and their share in the arab spring because it has all been planned long ago.
The fact that both leaders Gaddafi shiite and Assad shiite had to go because of bloodshed during riots while protesters in the gulf states are simply killed through gun fire, should really ring a bell.
Moreover qaradawi announced a fatwa against Gaddafi saying the muslims should kill him Feb 2011.
I have a feeling that if we really dig deep, the war in Afghanistan and irak were already planned long before 9/11.


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posted on Sep, 18 2015 @ 01:54 AM
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a reply to: earthling42

Russia has in fact blocked almost all UN actions on Syria so yes they can be blamed. Just as Russia has blocked almost all actions on Ukraine.



posted on Sep, 18 2015 @ 02:29 AM
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Rogers talks Russia in Syria and candidates' experience


U S Russia ignoring NATO, expanding activity in Syria


RUSSIA IN SYRIA


Looks like its going down in Syria! Russia is there with some new wepons, looks like ISIL and the Free Syrian Army is in for more of a fight than they bargained for.


Here is more news on the Russians and Iranians forming a spearhead to fight against the ISIL terrorists.
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posted on Sep, 18 2015 @ 06:44 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Thankyou for adding those snippets


They go to show two things that the MSM is kinda glazing over in order to create hysteria about Russia;

1) Putin openly invited other nations to come assist him (hint to Obama; pick up the phone!)
2) There are only 4 soldiers that the US trained left availabe to fight - an absolute travisty.

All of this only confirms to me what a poor job the US and its allies have done in Syria. If Putin is prepared to put troops on the ground to beat back ISIS, then he is the man of the moment. Who cares what his motives are; The USA had it's chance to put its own troops in there but held off and let this fester into a very ugly problem.



posted on Sep, 18 2015 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Iran has been involved militarily in Syria since the start, trying to support and keep Assad in power. We know this because Iran has stated as much and has lost some officers in the progress.

Russian forces have not deployed to the front yet so their impact is still yet to be seen. Its interesting to note Russia remained out until Latakia came under threat. If Latakia completely fell to the FSA / ISIS it would force a Russian withdraw from Tartus.


a reply to: markosity1973
Ironic that Russia is the last to the party. If he were that concerned about what was occurring in Syria Putin would have been their since day 1. He wasn't.

why?

Because Russian interests weren't threatened until Assad was about to lose and Latakia coming under threat, which would cut off Tartus and force a Russian withdraw from their naval facilities.
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posted on Sep, 19 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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Hear it from the horses mouth John Kerry has an interview on Syria and addresses the Russian role.



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 05:05 PM
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a reply to: mortex

WTH are you ranting at me about?

Your mind is made up already I'm the one open minded to the idea the Russia and Assad are only looking for mutual gain at the expense of the Syrian people but you wanna rant about the USA and how much you hate them while overlooking the worlds savior Russia.

Like i said i'm not defending the USA or the CIA

Syria hasn't retaliated because they have nothing to retaliate with except old Russian Aircraft that the Russian fed the world like candy

but to you Russia's hands are clean pffft



posted on Sep, 21 2015 @ 11:18 PM
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U.S. considers Russian intentions and involvement in Syria



posted on Sep, 22 2015 @ 08:21 AM
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ISIS NO MORE?!?!

Surely we all see that partially ISIS was the brainchild of US operations that was sparked of delightfully due to Arab Spring.

However, least we forget that like in any situation when an asset becomes of no use to a certain Administration it is left to fend for itself or usually is terminated brutally.

Putin has not only united many nations against a single cause but also managed to broker a deal with Israel a few days to part take in the grand orchestra that the Middle East War on Terror will become.

Partially, ISIS is not on it's own but surely some support/backdoor dealing between it and US will remain, we must know that the dire situation that may follow could result not only in Chemical Weapon use (Which the Russian International Relations has been reporting as of late, that states of ISIS obtaining certain Chemical Stock Pile)

Yet, we may also see nuclear use as the market/oil sales would be enough to fund purchase of such arsenal for the so called brainchild (I prefer to call it a brain tumor).

We must ask then the most pondering question - Who would supply the nukes?
Who would benefit more from an all out war?
Why?
Economical reasons or a massive debt that needs to be written off?



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 04:50 AM
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McFarland on Russia's Syria push



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: FormOfTheLord


McFarland on Russia's Syria push


This explains a lot. The US basically state that the middle east is all about their personal interests, and that Russia should eihter help them Reach their goal or stay hell out of their way.

Right now it seams like the US are scared they are going to be left out. The US are in a bit of a predicament and have to make some hard Choices.

1. Either the US join up With Assad, Russia and IRan in the fight against IS.
2. The US let Russia, Assad and Iran take up the fight agaisnt IS on their own.
3. The US join the Kurds..... but that will moste likely create a problem With Turkey.

The US are not getting Syria for them selves. That Train has left the station, since Russia now have troops and HW inside Syria.
If the US want Assad and Syria for them selves, the US are going to have to fight Russia.



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 07:18 AM
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originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: FormOfTheLord


McFarland on Russia's Syria push


This explains a lot. The US basically state that the middle east is all about their personal interests, and that Russia should eihter help them Reach their goal or stay hell out of their way.

Right now it seams like the US are scared they are going to be left out. The US are in a bit of a predicament and have to make some hard Choices.

1. Either the US join up With Assad, Russia and IRan in the fight against IS.
2. The US let Russia, Assad and Iran take up the fight agaisnt IS on their own.
3. The US join the Kurds..... but that will moste likely create a problem With Turkey.

The US are not getting Syria for them selves. That Train has left the station, since Russia now have troops and HW inside Syria.
If the US want Assad and Syria for them selves, the US are going to have to fight Russia.


I have a sinking feeling it might be that whole support one side against the other, as long as they are killing each other I dont have to do the dirty work myself. . . . Its worked countless times, and seems to keep on working.



posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 10:26 AM
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www.liveleak.com...

On Tuesday morning, a Chinese naval vessel reportedly traveled through Egypt’s Suez Canal to enter the Mediterranean Sea; its destination was not confirmed.

However, according to a senior officer in the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) that is stationed inside the Syrian coastal city of Latakia, Chinese military personnel and aerial assets are scheduled to arrive in the coming weeks (6 weeks) to the port-city of Tartous – he could not provide anymore detail.

Russia has made it abundantly clear that they are taking an active role in this conflict, but the news of the Chinese military to Syria provides more insight into their contingency.



But wait it would appear that China is in this as well. . . .

We will see.. . . .


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posted on Sep, 23 2015 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: FormOfTheLord

That changes things... Appears the Russians and the Chinese have a military pact.



posted on Sep, 24 2015 @ 07:43 AM
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It looks like the ISIL/FSA/rebels have taken notice of the Russian pressence and are going to fight it out!


Russia Faces Complex Web Of Fighters In Syria



posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 03:48 PM
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originally posted by: TheBoyKing
ISIS NO MORE?!?!

Surely we all see that partially ISIS was the brainchild of US operations that was sparked of delightfully due to Arab Spring.


Not at all. ISIS was formed from former Al-Qaeda in Iraq (Zarqarwi) + Baathists. US fought them both.



We must ask then the most pondering question - Who would supply the nukes?
Who would benefit more from an all out war?


ISIS, because their apocalyptic ideology depends on it.


Why? Economical reasons or a massive debt that needs to be written off?


US economy is improving and one of the better on the planet at present. US has no economic interest in worldwide conflict.

Is it hard to believe that ISIS is a creation of itself and its people, that no outside force was necessary other than religion, zealotry and hatred?

At the moment, a little bit of KGB intrigue and the succession of somebody-not-Assad-and-not-Islamist so we can let the government win would be the best outcome.

Kurds are the only friends US has. US should protect them from both ISIS and Ergodan (and suppress PKK).


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posted on Sep, 25 2015 @ 07:47 PM
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Exclusive: Iraq tells U.N. that 'terrorist groups' seized nuclear materials



Insurgents in Iraq have seized nuclear materials used for scientific research at a university in the country's north, Iraq told the United Nations in a letter appealing for help to "stave off the threat of their use by terrorists in Iraq or abroad."

Nearly 40 kilograms (88 pounds) of uranium compounds were kept at Mosul University, Iraq's U.N. Ambassador Mohamed Ali Alhakim told U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon in the July 8 letter obtained by Reuters on Wednesday.

"Terrorist groups have seized control of nuclear material at the sites that came out of the control of the state," Alhakim wrote, adding that such materials "can be used in manufacturing weapons of mass destruction."

"These nuclear materials, despite the limited amounts mentioned, can enable terrorist groups, with the availability of the required expertise, to use it separate or in combination with other materials in its terrorist acts," said Alhakim.

He warned that they could also be smuggled out of Iraq.

A U.S. government source familiar with the matter said the materials were not believed to be enriched uranium and therefore would be difficult to use to manufacture into a weapon. Another U.S. official familiar with security matters said he was unaware of this development raising any alarm among U.S. authorities.

A Sunni Muslim group known as the Islamic State is spearheading a patchwork of insurgents who have taken over large swaths of Syria and Iraq. The al Qaeda offshoot until recently called itself the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).


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ISIS has had access to nuclear material since 2014 when Iraq notified the world of ISIS over running cities that had universities with nuclear research material.




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