A New Day has Dawned , Jeremy Corbyn New Labour Leader , Tom Watson his deputy

A new day has dawned , has it not : Blair 97
And now the nightmare is over Tony and the Labour party is back in the hands of the left .... Hahahahhahahaha !
We at last have a real choice between parties and someone for the diseffected to rally around other than the hateful Farage , to those who will no doubt claim Labour has made itself unelectable , only time will tell but the main thing is this country now has a clear choice between parties.

Jeremy Corbyn is a man of integrity and honesty , something we have become unaccustomed to over the years , I wish him all the best and hope the right of the party will accept the rusult without throwing their toys out of the pram.

The future of the Labour party starts now , I look forward now to the next election with a new found enthusiasm.



Jeremy Corbyn .... 59.5 %
Andy Burnham .... 19.0 %
Yvette Cooper .... 17.0 %
Liz Kendal ..... 4.5 %

a reply to: gortex
Isn't that what they thought when Michael Foot was chosen?

a reply to: DISRAELI

Apples are not Pears.

I agree that it is a new start and Labour is now led by a person that has roots in the Trade Unions and holds dear all the values of what Labour stands for.

I am beginning to have faith in our political system once again and many many people have now woken up and we have a real alternative.

a reply to: gortex

I wish him well.

However if he is electable as a PM only time will tell. I do have my doubts.

a reply to: gortex
But the trees that grow up from two discarded apple cores will both be apple trees.

a reply to: DISRAELI

Time will tell , I don't believe he is anything like Micheal Foot and think that will be shown as time passes , some will make snap assumptions like yourself but they're likely Tories anyway so they would wouldn't they.

The main thing is the Status Quo has been ended , politics is stale when there is no choice , we now have clear water between the Tories and Labour and that can only be good news for the democracy of our country.

Well least labour lead by someone with abit of integrity, even if I do fundamentally disagree with all most everything thats comes out of corbyns mouth.

Least there is a choice now between the parties, even if that choice is a bad one.

Good. It's not like labour were going to win The next election no matter who was selected as leader, at least Corbyn provides some articulate opposition and seems to have integrity and he's a bit different. I also like Tom Watson, he's been quite influential over the years both on phone hacking and asking questions about a pedophile ring. All big issues.


Eta for American members Jeremy Corbyn makes Bernie Sanders look like Donald trump

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: gortex
Isn't that what they thought when Michael Foot was chosen?

But back then the only way the public gained information was via the media which as we all know is biased to the right. Remember the vitriolic attacks in the Daily Mail? I do, they were horrible but if you lie long enough people believe it.

Today we have the internet and social media and people, especially the young, use social media and cannot be led by the spiteful right wing press.

Don't believe me, then all you have to do is to reflect on what happened during the Scottish referendum and the General election result in Scotland. The youth vote increased and voted contrary to what the press wanted.

The Tories know fine well that they depend on a stupid electorate easily led by the traditional media. They are petrified of an enlightened, emboldened and informed electorate who ignore the old style media. This is why Cameron attacked the SNP during the election despite the fact it was to his advantage for the SNP to do well DUH!!!!!!!

a reply to: yorkshirelad
You can't blame hostile media for the phrase "longest suicide note in history".
That was the assessment of a fellow Labour M.P.

So funny worth the cost of getting him elected lol. Anti nuke, anti monarchy renationalise the railway probably open the pits, sadly I can't see him lasting a year but should still be good fun. Even George Galloway says he's going to rejoin the Labour Party brilliant! Hope they put prime ministers question time on TV at peak times. Cameron must be out partying today, if Corbyn manages to see the year out it could be the end of the Labour Party. No wonder Farage is smiling a great year ahead.

If anything this proves the existence of parallel dimensions... because we have literally just crashed into one... and it's going to be wild... so hold on to your hats...



I think anyone against what corbyn stands for need their "heads felt" and "hearts transplanted" (two of the suggestions from labour leaders during the campaign about corbyn supporters)


Jeremy Corbyn stands for the following:

Standing up to the financial terrorists who continue to get away with criminal malpractice in the financial sector.

Standing up to the politicians who think that street cleaners nurses and firemen should have their wages cut in order to pay for the criminal activities of the financial terrorists.

Standing up to free trade agreememts that seek to turn democracies into fascist corporatocracies like the USA...

Standing up for human rights and dignity regardless of nationality ehtnicity religion gender etc.

Standing up to warmongers who want to keep us divided, and who are more interested in arms sales to regions like the middle East than diplomatic solutions.

Standing up to Nuclear Weapons lunatic enthusiasts who think we should stockpile weapons of mass destruction for our own safety at the cost of £30Billion we can't afford.

Standing up to the fascist undemocratic EU agenda that wants to sell European citizens out and usher in corporate dictatorship new world order aka US global hegomony / dictatorship / one world government.

Standing up to unfair welfare reforms that leave sick and disabled people without any money.

Standing up to the people who think its somehow fair to make students pay for their own tuition before ey even enter the world of work and start earning money.

If you are against all these things that Jeremy Corbyn stands for you are nothing but a traitor of humanity.



PS. His speech after being announced the winner was the antithesis of Blair's 1997 'a new day has dawned speech, has it not?' speech.

I was very torn. I had hoped Dan Jarvis would throw his hat in the ring but I think he's one for the future. I am all for Corbyn's policies but I can just imagine what a hatchet job the Tories and their media are going to do on Corbyn and will he appeal to the stupid electorate? Only time will tell.

Good to see ATS has it's fair share of Yorkshire members.

Scally

Now if we can just move the banking elite who actually make decisions to the side and get........... Oh wait, that's never going to happen.

I'll rue the day 'political' change means change for anyone other than a politician. Throw me some crumbs please, I'm starving.

a reply to: nonjudgementalist

And it all depends if he like most labour candidates before him want to pursue those policy at the expense of rapeing the middle classes.

If he going to ruin our bank accounts then he is going to make the impact of a wet fart in the south.

When politicians say they are going after the bankers and rich, normally its us in the middle that get hit! The Small business owners, Scientists and Doctors who are innocent and make the country tick.

As for university?
Note everyone should be going to university. At least not the numbers we have to today. We dont need graduates in Womyns studies and Social sciences. University should be for the professionals and best and brightest. The Doctors, Lawyers, Vets, Engineers, Scientists and Historians. Sure make its affordable or even free for those courses but dam it if I want tax money to pay some dumb ass teenager who doesn't know what they want to do in life to get drunk and "find" themselves and come out with a useless piece of paper no employer takes seriously.

a reply to: gortex

If indeed the fellow in question displays integrity and honesty he is obviously in the wrong line of work.

A politician who wants to re-socialise British industry, unlimited immigration (yet increase social benefits at the same time) and vows never to use the British forces abroad.

Sounds like a massive expenditure, where will all this money come from? The usual Labour way......borrow it. We are in debt, borrowing more money is not wise for anyone in debt. Also the massive extra expenditure.

House prices? Unlimited immigration means house prices soar even more than the current average of over £200 000. Totally unaffordable for working class people, never mind immigrants.

Labour are unvoteable, buisness leaders have done nothing but complain about this guy.

I do believe his heart is in the right place but his goals would destroy the UK.

Good luck with that.

originally posted by: brancolinoxx
A politician who wants to re-socialise British industry, unlimited immigration and vows never to use the British forces abroad.

Good luck with that.

He only has my support on the last one.

Dont think he will make any in roads with us in the south.

He somes like a decent guy. But his policies are far too lefty for my middle class tastes.

a reply to: crazyewok

At the expense of rapeing the middle classes. 

Seriously, you think middle classes arent being "raped" by the economic policies of the current Tory government? George Osbourne is selling our national assets back to the private sector at a loss. Corbyn specifically spoke against this during the sky news debate....


Moreover, the working classes and the young are being hit a lot harder than the middle classes... The thing you don't seem to understand is Tories don't care about this country, they care about their own interests... They care about Big Business and that's the end of it.... If you want to live under an Oligarchy, fine continue supporting the Tory agenda... But with only 25% of electoral support at the last general election potentially 75% of the country consider those who support neo liberal policies traitors.