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How about this one. This is the twenty first century, not the twentieth or the nineteenth. Sure, men a physically more capable than women in a whole number of personal combat abilities but to what degree are even the men going to have to preform at that level of combat. My guess, only a small minority. My question is how well do the women rate to the men in modern warfare tactics like pushing buttons or drone control or hell, I don't know, any number of skills that are required of soldiers in this century. My guess? I guess you can figure it.
originally posted by: johnwick
originally posted by: TycoonBarnaby
originally posted by: pheonix358
Equally, a test could be devised, for combat, where women would equal or exceed the men.
Smaller body weight generally increases quickness and agility. Other areas such as pain tolerance are also areas where women can excel.
As long as it is men designing the tests with the the objective of keeping the women out, you will always see results such as this.
The Israeli armed forces seem to do very well with women in front line combat units simply because they acknowledge the differences between the sexes and plan around them. They do not expect women to carry the squad machine gun and they use women in certain specialized roles.
After all, we are not running around with swords and maces.
Smaller body weight?... Because you can't find men that fit this criteria (how is this your leading argument?)...
Pain tolerance?... link me a study.
Let us just end the pain tolerance thing now once and for all.
Getting kicked in the nutz, is more painful than childbirth..... I assure you I have thought this out very thoroughly.
Here let me explain
Woman has a kid, within a year or 2 she starts talking about having another.
Man gets kicked in the nutz, it doesn't matter how much time passes, you are not going to hear him say " Its been a while, think I will get kicked in the nutz again soon"
Lol, end of debate
The three female soldiers are on their third attempt to make it through the two-month course.
Official: All 3 women in Ranger School pass PT test
originally posted by: pheonix358
Now if that ruck march was done with a pack that weighed a proportion of the carriers weight you may find a different outcome!
originally posted by: Xtrozero
Can you fight, or not, at a minimum level, period.
originally posted by: peck420
The Marines are not, nor will they ever be, about the 'minimum level'. Quite frankly, that is the antithesis of their very ethos.
The truth is there are some women better then some men, so if ANYONE can meet the minimum standards they are good to go. If the passing score is 70 and mixed groups get 75 to 85 on an average and all male groups average 80 to 90 on the scores who really cares in the end unless we are giving our ribbons and we are not. Can you fight, or not, at a minimum level, period.
originally posted by: RogueWave
That is idiotic. If you have a choice, why would you pick a group with a lower average?
originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: Xtrozero
Minimally capable combat troops are know by another name:
...the top 25 percent of female performers and the bottom 25 percent of male performers overlapped, meaning that the strongest women had the same power as the weakest men
The experiment also allowed women to take part in training programs that had previously been closed to them... ...While 71 percent of men successfully graduated from the Infantry Officer Course, not one woman managed to pass in 29 attempts.