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Al Qaeda Leader Declares War On ISIS 'Caliph'

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posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 10:45 AM
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6abc.com...

Ayman al-Zawahiri makes a speech condemning the caliphate and how Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has declared himself Caliph without any vote from peers.

"We preferred to respond with as little as possible, out of our concern to extinguish the fire of sedition," Zawahiri explained, "but Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and his brothers did not leave us a choice, for they have demanded that all the mujahideen reject their confirmed pledges of allegiance, and to pledge allegiance to them for what they claim of a caliphate."

Things are about to get very complicated, "The enemy of my Enemy is my friend"

OK Al Qaeda being alies ???? wtf!

edit on 9/11/2015 by Mirthful Me because: All Caps Title...




posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: kountzero

More war, more killing. It seems it's their perceived solution to everything.

Couldn't he have invited them over for a negotiation? Oh. They don't have that word in their vocabulary.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 10:50 AM
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Sadly western media doesn't portray the nuances of Middle Eastern issues very well. Sunnis and Shias do not get along well at all.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:01 AM
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They've been fighting each other in the mideast tooth and nail for thousands of years. It takes a hardliner to keep the lid on. The Shah or Hussein or Assad or Qadaffi etc. The problem with the West is we look at 'our' hardliner as the good guy and 'their' hardliner as the bad guy. But if you unscrew the lid and remove a brute without one to step in and restore order (in a most heavy handed way) what you get is what we have - unbridled chaos.

This isn't something you can half-ass. Either go in and stomp everything flat and insert brute of choice, or leave them alone. Lack of commitment to finish something started is the worst possible thing we can have. And that's what we have.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:05 AM
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a reply to: angeldoll

Couldn't he have invited them over for a negotiation? Oh. They don't have that word in their vocabulary.

What the...?

Yes, they do have the word in their vocab, but they have another that trumps that one - jihad.

So, you may show up to the negotiations, but you may not be leaving...




posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:06 AM
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There will never be peace in this part of the world, let them fight until there is only one. Those who flee accept them, cause the Middle east is gonna become a big parking lot. When its done just play along until the next time it happens. Teach your kids about love and peace



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:08 AM
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a reply to: yeahright


It takes a hardliner to keep the lid on. The Shah or Hussein or Assad or Qadaffi etc.


I remember when opponents of going into Iraq said the same thing. That it took a Saddam-like brute to keep the people from killing each other.

Yesterday on Twitter, people were calling the days of Qadaffi, Mubarak and Saddam "the good ole days".

It's gut wrenching.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:16 AM
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a reply to: Hefficide


Sunnis and Shias do not get along well at all.

ISIS and Al-Qaeda are both Sunni organizations, though.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:24 AM
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Theatre of war. ISIS vs Al-Qaeda. Celebrity death match. PPV. Minted. How do we always buy into this dribble?



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: Astyanax

Ah... You are correct. I've been reading about Abu Azrael and Iran for a couple of weeks now and managed to cross wires. I stand corrected.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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Wasn't something simular reported..I dunno..maybe up to a year ago?



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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Tis true what he says...

Sunnis want to vote (Shura) for any Caliph...


Just another in a long line of contradictions from ISIS.


Go Al Qaeda o/...

Wait, what?
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posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: Astyanax
a reply to: Hefficide


Sunnis and Shias do not get along well at all.

ISIS and Al-Qaeda are both Sunni organizations, though.


plus the OP:

...Ayman al-Zawahiri makes a speech condemning the caliphate and how Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has declared himself Caliph without any vote from peers.


 


IS, declared itself a Caliphate which 98% of the other Muslims silently reject... I have a hunch that al-Zawahiri, the Turks, the Persians, the Indonesian/Malaysian Muslims want a Caliphate modeled after the Ottoman's not this present radical, murderous, chaotic false Caliphate manned (mostly) by former radical Baathists and leftovers from a decimated personal family situation (a rage driven behavior founded on revenge & hate rather than elevating Islam)



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:39 AM
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Oh now people.

That is about politics like we have.

People within any given group will fight for control.

Ultimately while what is going on in the ME has the face of religion. It is about power, and control.

Like American politics. 'Terrorists' have their useful idiots.

Only they have no quams about killing their rivals.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: kountzero


OK Al CIAeda being alies ???? wtf!


here, fixed.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:46 AM
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Sounds like more controlled feigned opposition.

The ME psyops are many.




posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 11:56 AM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Rip enough layers off, and I'm afraid it's us fighting ourselves. An NSA/CIA proxy war to determine what brand of K-cups to stock in the break room. Donut Shop vs Dark Magic.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: St Udio

I don't think most Muslims want a caliphate.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: yeahright
a reply to: xuenchen

Rip enough layers off, and I'm afraid it's us fighting ourselves. An NSA/CIA proxy war to determine what brand of K-cups to stock in the break room. Donut Shop vs Dark Magic.



Ripping off those layers and one finds Saudi's GIP backing the Sunni terrorists.

Peel back that other side of that, and one would find Iran's MOIS backing the Shia side.

Which would be a GIP/MOIS proxy war because both sides want control.



posted on Sep, 11 2015 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: kountzero

It's going to get to the point soon when the DoD declares war on itself.....

The enemy of my enemy is my friends friend who is also enemies with my other friend who's enemies with everyone...




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