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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: SlapMonkey
Gov. Beshear needs to get off of his duff, call a special session, and amend these laws to negate further confusion, but heaven forbid a politician go above and beyond the minimum in order to make things run more smoothly.
Thank you -- yes! None of this was necessary or proper. The governor knew the Supreme Court decision was coming and he should have been prepared to do his job and take care of business. It's been over two months. There is no good reason for this.
He needs to do his job.
originally posted by: kaylaluv
By having her name on the license, she is making no moral judgments for or against same-sex marriage.
originally posted by: sdcigarpig
The reality is that the Oath keepers are going to force a show down and it would be bad if violence were to break out. We can only hope that Davis will not interfere and things calm down.
Unfortunately, I suspect her lawyers (and her other religio-political "handlers") want just such a confrontation. Davis is a puppet, IMO, being used by the religious right to force their "special rights" agenda.
Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes announced [Wednesday] that he had reached out to Davis’ lawyers at Liberty Counsel to offer the protection of his group, which he says is already forming a presence in Rowan County, Kentucky, where Davis was recently released from jail after prohibiting her office from issuing marriage licenses. Rhodes said in a statement that his position has nothing to do with gay marriage, but rather his conviction that Davis had been illegally detained by the federal judge who held her in contempt for violating multiple court orders. In a phone call with Jackson County, Kentucky, Sheriff Denny Peyman and other local Oath Keepers activists, Rhodes said that he was on his way to Kentucky to help with the Davis operation.
Davis was jailed at the Carter County Detention Center on Thursday after she refused to comply with a court order to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. The following day, her deputies began issuing the documents in her absence. As a condition of her release Tuesday, U.S. District Judge David Bunning ordered Davis not to interfere with the issuing of marriage licenses by her office.
originally posted by: 5thNovember
So we can change marriage laws because they don't accommodate the gays but taking the requirement of having clerks names on things that could very well with the stroke of a pen have a different name and by all common sense means would not remove the value of the document is a travesty of the constitution? I lol at that statement. IE, if Hancock didn't sign the declaration would it have made any difference? no its just a signature, that can be replaced. We are in the day and age where you have two idiots punching each other square in the face at the same time and blaming the other, lets just accept the fact that
A simple law change no one gets hurt, change law to avoid calamity, licenses remain valid and get issued. Instead what we see from the incompetent government is a complete failure to uphold their oaths, thus the religious freedom in the constitution. For this very reason the country was designed to accommodate everyone. When you choose who gets rights is where it all falls apart. Thus the civil war and civil rights movements country torn apart because people were trying to dictate whether or not the blacks had rights, which were seeing now but over religion. Separation of Church and state means you cannot have religion dictate law, nor infringe on the Church using the state. Balance my friends.
The constitution was written to restrict the government not the people. Religious freedom is still freedom. If you want your right to speak against it she has a right to her religion and what it dictates. Don't like that? Mexico is that way! >>>>>
originally posted by: Flatfish
To be honest, I think everyone in that state who voted in favor of amending their constitution, (or whatever law it was that 75% of their citizenship supposedly voted for) in order to ban same sex marriage, did so because they also knew this SCOTUS ruling was inevitable and it's really nothing short of a statewide effort to preempt and/or defy the courts.
The judge however, is doing his job just as the law requires him to.