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originally posted by: jjkenobi
originally posted by: amicktd
Anti-gay Christian = Racist
There I said it, because frankly it's the truth. To all the christians out there that doesn't want to oppress an entire group of people due to sexual preference, I say thank you.
Flame on, because I don't give a ****
Uhhh, you should probably look up the definition of "racist". Doesn't have anything to do with sexual preferences.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
The judge COULDN'T "go around her". She was elected and this was his ONLY recourse!
The Oath Keepers say she should've been offered a Trial by Jury.
I don't see that - - as she clearly broke the law by refusing a direct order to abide by the Supreme Court decision.
Hence the contempt ruling. Their is no trial. Its really basic law.
Even a murderer who kill sin public in front of thousands of witnesses gets a trial even if they admit their guilt. It s a right.
Not the same. Read the law. This is like a probation violation. She can have a hearing thats it. Again what would a trial do? The judge told her their would be a punishment if she continued to break the law.
originally posted by: amicktd
originally posted by: jjkenobi
originally posted by: amicktd
Anti-gay Christian = Racist
There I said it, because frankly it's the truth. To all the christians out there that doesn't want to oppress an entire group of people due to sexual preference, I say thank you.
Flame on, because I don't give a ****
Uhhh, you should probably look up the definition of "racist". Doesn't have anything to do with sexual preferences.
I know it doesn't, but both are oppressing a group of people based on their beliefs. So I say it again Anti-gay Christian = Racist
originally posted by: amicktd
originally posted by: jjkenobi
originally posted by: amicktd
Anti-gay Christian = Racist
There I said it, because frankly it's the truth. To all the christians out there that doesn't want to oppress an entire group of people due to sexual preference, I say thank you.
Flame on, because I don't give a ****
Uhhh, you should probably look up the definition of "racist". Doesn't have anything to do with sexual preferences.
I know it doesn't, but both are oppressing a group of people based on their beliefs. So I say it again Anti-gay Christian = Racist
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
The judge COULDN'T "go around her". She was elected and this was his ONLY recourse!
The Oath Keepers say she should've been offered a Trial by Jury.
I don't see that - - as she clearly broke the law by refusing a direct order to abide by the Supreme Court decision.
Hence the contempt ruling. Their is no trial. Its really basic law.
Even a murderer who kill sin public in front of thousands of witnesses gets a trial even if they admit their guilt. It s a right.
Not the same. Read the law. This is like a probation violation. She can have a hearing thats it. Again what would a trial do? The judge told her their would be a punishment if she continued to break the law.
Like i said earlier a trial would had resulted in her walking and no repurcussions in kentucky. ANd How i si tliek a probation violation? SHe comitted no crime. Judges are a narcissitic pricks who get their jollies by harming others.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
The judge COULDN'T "go around her". She was elected and this was his ONLY recourse!
The Oath Keepers say she should've been offered a Trial by Jury.
I don't see that - - as she clearly broke the law by refusing a direct order to abide by the Supreme Court decision.
Hence the contempt ruling. Their is no trial. Its really basic law.
Even a murderer who kill sin public in front of thousands of witnesses gets a trial even if they admit their guilt. It s a right.
Not the same. Read the law. This is like a probation violation. She can have a hearing thats it. Again what would a trial do? The judge told her their would be a punishment if she continued to break the law.
Like i said earlier a trial would had resulted in her walking and no repurcussions in kentucky. ANd How i si tliek a probation violation? SHe comitted no crime. Judges are a narcissitic pricks who get their jollies by harming others.
She violated a court order. You are clueless of how the judicial system works. She is in violation of the supreme court order. She was warned in court by a judge that actually shares her viewpoint but knows how the law works. A jury can not aquit a guilty person do you umderstand this? She is guilty and admits it. The contempt is defying the court order given to her....just like probation.
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: amicktd
originally posted by: jjkenobi
originally posted by: amicktd
Anti-gay Christian = Racist
There I said it, because frankly it's the truth. To all the christians out there that doesn't want to oppress an entire group of people due to sexual preference, I say thank you.
Flame on, because I don't give a ****
Uhhh, you should probably look up the definition of "racist". Doesn't have anything to do with sexual preferences.
I know it doesn't, but both are oppressing a group of people based on their beliefs. So I say it again Anti-gay Christian = Racist
And you are wrong and could be sued for slander. Im sure th e above network would love that huh? Ba d publicity if she sees this and decides to take you to court over it.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: undo
a reply to: luthier
oh this is starting to sound like a states rights issue.
How so is a supreme court ruling a states rights issue? Is there a federal tax code for marriage?
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
The judge COULDN'T "go around her". She was elected and this was his ONLY recourse!
The Oath Keepers say she should've been offered a Trial by Jury.
I don't see that - - as she clearly broke the law by refusing a direct order to abide by the Supreme Court decision.
Hence the contempt ruling. Their is no trial. Its really basic law.
Even a murderer who kill sin public in front of thousands of witnesses gets a trial even if they admit their guilt. It s a right.
Not the same. Read the law. This is like a probation violation. She can have a hearing thats it. Again what would a trial do? The judge told her their would be a punishment if she continued to break the law.
Like i said earlier a trial would had resulted in her walking and no repurcussions in kentucky. ANd How i si tliek a probation violation? SHe comitted no crime. Judges are a narcissitic pricks who get their jollies by harming others.
She violated a court order. You are clueless of how the judicial system works. She is in violation of the supreme court order. She was warned in court by a judge that actually shares her viewpoint but knows how the law works. A jury can not aquit a guilty person do you umderstand this? She is guilty and admits it. The contempt is defying the court order given to her....just like probation.
So, the Oath Keepers have zero legal ground to prevent her from going back to jail if she again defies the court order?
originally posted by: amicktd
originally posted by: jjkenobi
originally posted by: amicktd
Anti-gay Christian = Racist
There I said it, because frankly it's the truth. To all the christians out there that doesn't want to oppress an entire group of people due to sexual preference, I say thank you.
Flame on, because I don't give a ****
Uhhh, you should probably look up the definition of "racist". Doesn't have anything to do with sexual preferences.
I know it doesn't, but both are oppressing a group of people based on their beliefs. So I say it again Anti-gay Christian = Racist
originally posted by: undo
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: undo
a reply to: luthier
oh this is starting to sound like a states rights issue.
How so is a supreme court ruling a states rights issue? Is there a federal tax code for marriage?
for example: a jury of her peers would agree with her above the federal laws enforced by the supreme court, which goes back to the old argument regarding the federal government being given authority to interfer with jury outcomes based on federal laws, all of which were put in place initially (at least the foundations) over the slavery issue.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
The judge COULDN'T "go around her". She was elected and this was his ONLY recourse!
The Oath Keepers say she should've been offered a Trial by Jury.
I don't see that - - as she clearly broke the law by refusing a direct order to abide by the Supreme Court decision.
Hence the contempt ruling. Their is no trial. Its really basic law.
Even a murderer who kill sin public in front of thousands of witnesses gets a trial even if they admit their guilt. It s a right.
Not the same. Read the law. This is like a probation violation. She can have a hearing thats it. Again what would a trial do? The judge told her their would be a punishment if she continued to break the law.
Like i said earlier a trial would had resulted in her walking and no repurcussions in kentucky. ANd How i si tliek a probation violation? SHe comitted no crime. Judges are a narcissitic pricks who get their jollies by harming others.
She violated a court order. You are clueless of how the judicial system works. She is in violation of the supreme court order. She was warned in court by a judge that actually shares her viewpoint but knows how the law works. A jury can not aquit a guilty person do you umderstand this? She is guilty and admits it. The contempt is defying the court order given to her....just like probation.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
The judge COULDN'T "go around her". She was elected and this was his ONLY recourse!
The Oath Keepers say she should've been offered a Trial by Jury.
I don't see that - - as she clearly broke the law by refusing a direct order to abide by the Supreme Court decision.
Hence the contempt ruling. Their is no trial. Its really basic law.
Even a murderer who kill sin public in front of thousands of witnesses gets a trial even if they admit their guilt. It s a right.
Not the same. Read the law. This is like a probation violation. She can have a hearing thats it. Again what would a trial do? The judge told her their would be a punishment if she continued to break the law.
Like i said earlier a trial would had resulted in her walking and no repurcussions in kentucky. ANd How i si tliek a probation violation? SHe comitted no crime. Judges are a narcissitic pricks who get their jollies by harming others.
She violated a court order. You are clueless of how the judicial system works. She is in violation of the supreme court order. She was warned in court by a judge that actually shares her viewpoint but knows how the law works. A jury can not aquit a guilty person do you umderstand this? She is guilty and admits it. The contempt is defying the court order given to her....just like probation.
So, the Oath Keepers have zero legal ground to prevent her from going back to jail if she again defies the court order?
Oh yeah..none. In fact it can have a terrible chain reaction of violence. As long as everything was filed correctly and the process was followed (which it seems to be) they would be in big trouble.
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: undo
originally posted by: luthier
originally posted by: undo
a reply to: luthier
oh this is starting to sound like a states rights issue.
How so is a supreme court ruling a states rights issue? Is there a federal tax code for marriage?
for example: a jury of her peers would agree with her above the federal laws enforced by the supreme court, which goes back to the old argument regarding the federal government being given authority to interfer with jury outcomes based on federal laws, all of which were put in place initially (at least the foundations) over the slavery issue.
Exactly and this is a similar case. All constitutional. You have to take down the 14th to have an argument first. Which will never happen.