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NYC World Premiere. Firefighters, Architects & Engineers: Expose the Myths of 9/11

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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 03:15 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

You just showed the same video.

I have to laugh at the sudden flash with the word core column. Nerveless the News man states it very clearly that was the side of the WTC.

Nice try.




posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 03:19 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958
look at the FIRST video segment. The core is clearly visible, sans Mossad art students [this is really amusing].

Nice try.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 03:25 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

A piece of "something" is visible. The fact you seem to think one little lone piece of core would have prevented collapse when 95% of the rest of it is just gone, is absurd. There were 47 steel core beams. What are we looking at? One?

Nice try
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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: pteridine


look at the FIRST video segment. The core is clearly visible


I did, and it is not the core column, it is the side of the WTC. Because someone wrote a tag in the video saying LOOK THAT'S THE CORE COLUMN! Watching the video, one can see it is the side, not the middle, my eyes don't lie to me.


sans Mossad art students [this is really amusing].


##SNIPPED##
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posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 03:49 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 


(post by pteridine removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 05:08 PM
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Let's Move On....

Discussing other members derails the topic....it ends now~~~~
You are responsible for your own posts.



posted on Sep, 16 2015 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: FlySolo



Those are concrete buildings, not steel frame ones.


Okay, let's take a look here as WTC6 collapsed after a few pulls with cables. Once again, another steel frame building collapsed without explosives.

In the video, jump to time line 1:40.



Steel frame buildings have been known to collapse due to earthquakes and fires.

21-Story Steel Frame Building Collapsed


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posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 04:54 AM
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Great vid OP! S&F!
I have always put the testimony of the 1st responders and other witnesses over what The Zelikow/Kean Commission and NIST say. I know most OS supporters say these guys were "mistaken." Or like to pretend that Berry Jennings and William Rodriguez among others don't exist.



posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 09:33 AM
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a reply to: skyeagle409

Pathetic response. In fact, it's so pathetic, I wasn't even going to reply until I noticed someone stared your nonsense.
That garbage of a building wtc6 in your video was already destroyed!! They pulled the rest down because it was unstable. And you're trying to pass that off as a proof a steel building can come down without explosives? Either you're the biggest OS fool alive or you think if you lie enough someone is going to believe you. It's nonsense and you're full of it.



posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 11:34 AM
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PREPARING THE WTC FOR DESTRUCTION


This is interesting! Goes along with what Rebekah Roth was saying!

What are the odds that an avant garde Austrian art group was given access to the 91st floor of the North Tower of the World Trade Center to remove windows, erect platforms outside the structure and leave material that could only be viewed by a close passing helicopter on a clear day? Well they are 100%.


What are the odds the art troupe are named after an explosive called Gelatin? What are the odds this group is sponsored by a cultural group who has an Israeli agent as a member who lived blocks from Mohammed Atta the terrorist who hated modern art and crashed an aircraft into it? Well they are 100%.


What are the odds that the markings on the cases that lined the walls of the space they were using were the same markings used for a special fuse holder assembly that allows for complex wiring? Well they are 100% too.


What are the odds the New York Times actually published a full page feature in August even showing pictures of the artists at work? Yes 100%.


What are the odds the graphic above if found in the hands of a Muslim in Iraq or Afghanistan would get you a one way ticket to Guantanimo with no chance to escape the water boarding season? Well more than 100% for sure.



The more you look the more you find!! And the more that scenario picture of the guys with those boxes in that room make a lot of sense. The no plane theory with just explosives makes a hell of a lot of sense especially when the experts say that planes could not slice through towers like butter and why some of footage of the planes crashing into the towers have so many anomalies in the clips!




WORKMEN DOING THE FINAL PRE 9/11 WORK ON THE KILL ZONE





This photo shows human forms in window frames of the dimensions of the WTC. The shot is from the Naudet film on the bridge between the Marriot and the North Tower. If police and fireman saw these things, it's no wonder they were left in the collapsing towers


Read the rest of the article. What Rebekah Roth says makes even more sense now and looks very convincing unlike OS.

Preparing the WTC For Destruction!



posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: Nova937

amen brother. We're all going to witness something soon which will dwarf 911



posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 01:03 PM
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a reply to: waypastvne

i995.photobucket.com...


So where did you take a screenshot of the copy of this insurance file of the Urban Moving company? This pic too, is nowhere to be found anywhere else on the internet but ATS, and leads back to only you.

Also, any thoughts on my previous posts?
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posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 01:56 PM
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What are the odds the art troupe are named after an explosive called Gelatin?


You do know that many people like to eat gelatin, right?

Gelatin



The more you look the more you find!! And the more that scenario picture of the guys with those boxes in that room make a lot of sense.


It has already been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that no explosive of any kind was responsible for the collapse of the WTC buildings.


The no plane theory with just explosives makes a hell of a lot of sense especially when the experts say that planes could not slice through towers like butter and why some of footage of the planes crashing into the towers have so many anomalies in the clips!


Well, let's take a look at what a smaller, lighter, and slower B-25 did to the Empire State Building.

B-25 Impact Hole on Facade of the Empire State Building

Just to let you know that the no-plane claim was fabricated.



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posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: FlySolo



Pathetic response.


I am right on the money!

A steel frame building (WTC6) collapsed without the use of explosives just as a 21-story steel frame building collapsed during an earthquake and steel frame buildings in Thailand collapsed within 2 hours due to fire just as a freeway overpass in Oakland, CA. collapsed when fire weakened its steel structure.



posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 02:10 PM
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Just to let you know that the no-plane claim was fabricated.


If anything was fabricated it is those impact videos.




Well, let's take a look at how a smaller, lighter, and slower B-25 sliced into the Empire State Building.


Did it cut through the Empire State like butter? Seems the wings snapped off in that case.
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posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 02:19 PM
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Or like to pretend that Berry Jennings and William Rodriguez among others don't exist.


They existed, but let's take a closer look at William Rodreguez since Berry Jennings is no longer around.



William Rodriguez - Last Man Out: Discovered a Fraud!

We have more then a few things we have discovered about Mr. William Rodriguez, alleged last man out of the world trade center on 9/11 which are extremely suspicious, but none as suspicious as when one draws a simple gracious time-line of William Rodriguez's very own tale of the events and compares it to probability verses possibility verses impossibility. . Unfortunately, no matter how one does the equation of William Rodriguez's tale of events of September the 11th, 2001, last man out, there is no available possibility that his story is true. There is literally no other possibility then that his tale of events is a staggering national hoax and at the crux of an international conspiracy.

His file is growing every day we look into this national hero of 9/11. When one lies and is caught in their lie, there is humiliation. But when one tells a lie thousands and thousands of times, and makes a fat living off of it for 10 years straight, who can describe the humiliation? William Rodriguez has told his lie, on National TV, International TV and beyond. He is by far one of the more prolific liars of the 21st century.

So don't expect William Rodriguez to ever admit to the truth. Even when nobody is listening to him any longer and he is living in a box again. And no, I seriously doubt Willie Rodriguez was ever homeless. That was all part of his "legend." The national hero ignored. National hero homeless. Then finally recognition and redemption., then finally international hero status. Legends take an awful lot of effort to create. Yet fraudulent legends sometimes fall in a matter of minutes, sometimes seconds. It doesn't take much. Just a little bit of truth shining in a dark place.

letsrollforums.com...


Debunking William Rodriguez

truthersaresanitychallenged.wordpress.com...


William Rodriguez, Escape Artist

www.internationalskeptics.com...


William Rodriguez - Deconstructing a Narcissistic & Fraudulent Super-Hero

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RICO lawsuit

In October 2004, Rodriguez sued the President of the United States and 155 other parties, accusing them of complicity in the 9/11 attacks.

His 237-page civil lawsuit included allegations pursuant to the RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) against The United States Of America, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, George Herbert Walker Bush, George W. Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald H. Rumsfeld,and numerous others, totaling 156 defendants in the US District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

In his lawsuit, Rodriguez made hundreds of allegations including allegations that the Twin Towers were destroyed by means of "controlled demolitions;" that members of the FDNY were ordered, on instructions of the CIA, not to talk about it; that the FDNY conspired with Larry Silverstein to deliberately destroy 7WTC; that projectiles were fired at the Twin Towers from “pods” affixed to the underside of the planes that struck them; that FEMA is working with the US government to create “American Gulag” concentration camps which FEMA will run once the federal government’s plan to impose martial law is in place; that phone calls made by some of the victims, as reported by their family members, were not actually made but were "faked" by the government using "voice morphing" technology; that a missile, not American Airlines Flight 77, struck the Pentagon; that United Airlines Flight 93 was shot down by the US military; that the defendants had foreknowledge of the attacks and actively conspired to bring them about; that the defendants engaged in kidnapping, arson, murder, treason, conspiracy, trafficking in narcotics, embezzlement, securities fraud, insider trading, identity and credit card theft, blackmail, trafficking in humans, and the abduction and sale of women and children for sex. In his Complaint, Rodriquez also alleged that he "single-handedly rescued fifteen persons from the WTC".

The matter was transferred to the Southern District of New York on May 2, 2005. In January 2006, Rodriguez swore and filed a 51-page affidavit in opposition to a motion to dismiss, which reiterated and expanded upon his conspiracy allegations. On June 26, 2006, the court dismissed Rodriguez's claims against the USA, DHS, and FEMA, and gave Rodriguez until July 7, 2006 to show cause why his lawsuit should not be dismissed with respect to the other 153 defendants. Rodriguez failed to do so, and the court dismissed all of his claims against all of the remaining 153 defendants on July 17, 2006

en.wikipedia.org...


William Rodriguez did a fantastic job misleading the Truth Movement.
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posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 02:40 PM
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If anything was fabricated it is those impact videos.


Let's take a look and please point where the videos were fabricated.





Now, let's take a look here.


Photo 1: American 11 Wreckage

Photo 2: American 11 Wreckage

Photo 3: American 11 Life Vest

Photo 4: B-767 Engine Remains

Photo 5: B-767 Tire

Photo 6: B-767 Wreckage

Photo 7: B-767 Engine Remains

Photo 8: Tag From B-767-200 Slat Control System

Photo 9: United 175 Fuselage Wreckage

Just to let you know that the no-plane claim was fabricated in order to discredit the Truth Movement and it worked.



Disinformation Killed 9/11 “Truth”

By 2009, the 9/11 “Truth” Movement was so inundated with disinformation that it had become a laughingstock. The easily-discredited claims (lies) contaminated the greater issue and soiled dissenters across the board. “Turd blossom” was a Karl Rove phrase that could describe what the movement had devolved into.

The media, whether corporate or foundation-funded, could find people ranting about “the Jews” or the Illuminati, the Lizard People, the missiles, holograms, mini-nukes or space beam weapons vaporizing the Twin Towers.

www.911truth.org...



posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

Yes indeed, you are correct because that is the core, not the outer parameter.



posted on Sep, 17 2015 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

It is obvious that it is the core, not the outer parameter that is left standing. Take a closer look.




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